Mike Trout and Vernon Wells get into a brawl over who will man left field for the Angels in 2012.
Yo-eleven. Less than 12, more than 10 days until pitchers/catchers report Halolinks:
NBC Sports is doing a feature on each team's projected opening day 25-man rosters; here's what they have on the Halos: Running down the rosters: Los Angeles Angels - HardballTalk. "Texas still has more depth and minor league talent to play with, but the Angels have the better rotation and now arguably the game’s best hitter anchoring the lineup." I'm a little concerned with the drop-off of talent the Angels have after #5 starter Jerome Williams, but I hate to say it, I wasn't aware of how weak the the bullpen looks until reading in this post. The only new addition to last season's staff was 39 year-old LaTroy Hawkins, and unless the club signs one of the few remaining free agents (Luis Ayala), or one of their current relievers has a breakout season (I'm betting on Rich Thompson), the pen may be the Angels downfall in 2012.
Mark Saxon's continued look at each position: Position previews: Left field - ESPN Los Angeles. There was some minor rumblings about the Vernon Wells/Mike Trout situation in left field, but Saxon gets a definitive answer, "Nothing gets Angels fans more riled up than thinking about left field; specifically, the brutal 2011 season of left fielder Vernon Wells.... Which figures to make the following comment by general manager Jerry Dipoto like nails on a chalkboard to some fans: "Vernon's our left fielder." Dipoto made that statement Wednesday, when I asked him whether there will be a measure of competition for the spot this spring." It sounds like Trout will start the season in Utah, "Guys who make their debuts as teenagers are in a selective class. He's got a huge upside and we'll make sure he gets his reps. With our current setup, there's no reason to rush him," Dipoto said.
And speaking of teenagers, here's an interesting post from FanGraphs: High School Draftees and Elite Seasons - FanGraphs Baseball. A couple of telling stats point out the difference in drafting HS and college players, "79% of collegiate first-round draft picks reach the major leagues for at least one day. 62% of high school first-round draft picks reach the major leagues for at least one day. 32.8% (77 of 235) of elite players were drafted out of high school. Compare that to the 45.9% (108 of 235) that attended some sort of college, and we are left with the conclusion that high school players are not worth the risk. The increased reward of an increased likelihood of drafting an elite player is simply not corroborated by the numbers. Not only do collegiate players reach the big leagues at a higher rate, but collegiate players also make up the vast majority of the elite players in the MLB since the 2000 season."
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ESPN's Keith Law takes a look at each teams' minor league system: San Diego Padres have the best farm system in baseball - ESPN (subscription req'd). You'll need an Insider subscription to read the entire post, but in case you don't, here's what he has to write about the Halos, "15. Los Angeles Angels There's only one real sure thing in the system (Mike Trout), but the Angels have a number of guys who are one major adjustment away from becoming impact prospects."
Prospect Q&A: 'Reck' turns to Langston - MiLB.com News. "Reckling compiled a 3.73 ERA in 17 starts and posted the first two complete games of his career, including a two-hit shutout the night before his 22nd birthday -- before a sore throwing elbow cost him most of July, August and September."
Within this post, The Angels' Mark Trumbo has been cleared to gradually resume all baseball activities. - angels.com, I read the following tidbit, "Trumbo and new general manager Jerry Dipoto have planned to meet a few times this offseason, but their schedules haven't allowed them to. Dipoto has had frequent talks with Trumbo's representative, however, with Trumbo saying: "They have a good understanding of what's going on, and my agent's asked a number of tough questions and Jerry's had good answers, and we feel satisfied with everything we've heard." This just seems weird to me...why did Trumbo have his agent talk with Dipoto instead of just picking up the phone himself and having a chat with the Angels' GM? Or if there were "tough questions", why didn't Dipoto dial up Trumbo to discuss their plans for the sophomore slugger? Like I said, this just seems weird to me.
Will big contracts for Pujols, Darvish, Fielder and Reyes pay off? - FOX Sports. "The Big Four have created limitless optimism in their respective cities. Many fans of the Angels, Tigers, Rangers and Marlins are absolutely certain their team will win the World Series. They don't want to hear the cautionary tales. But they should." This post also points out this, "Kevin Brown signed the first nine-figure contract after the 1998 season. Since then, 3,843 players have appeared in the major leagues, according to STATS LLC. So, over the past 13 seasons, less than one percent of all big leaguers can understand the pressures of being a $100 Million Man." But guess what -- Albert Pujols was already one of those $100 Million Men. The pressure's off! Unless being part of the TWO HUNDRED Million Dollar Man club puts some weight on his shoulders.
Well, so much for that...Rich Harden to Miss 2012 - FanGraphs Baseball. "According to CSN’s Ray Ratto, who attributes this piece of news to Peter Gammons, Rich Harden will miss the upcoming season due to a torn capsule in his shoulder." Iin a previous Halolinks post I had suggested the signing of Harden for the Halo bullpen. Nevermind.
Although he was a Yankee and came up through their minor league system, for some strange reason Nick Johnson was one of my favorite prospects. When skimming this post, Orioles close to minor league deal with Nick Johnson - HardballTalk, I had to laugh at this comment, "yankeesgameday - Feb 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM... Nick fractured his wrist signing the contract and is out until July."
If I ever get the chance to talk one-on-one with Angels manager Mike Scioscia, one of the off-the-record questions I'd like to ask him will be, "Why didn't you use Russ Branyan more often during the 2011 season?" Minor signings: Branyan, Suppan find homes - CBSSports.com. "Branyan, 36, will get $750,000 plus incentives if he makes the team, reports CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman, and could prove to be a pretty interesting signing for the Yankees. He's left-handed and has good power. He hit 31 homers in 116 games for the Mariners in 2009 and then hit 25 bombs in 428 plate appearances in 2010. Now, last season Branyan hit just .197/.295/.370 for the Diamondbacks and Angels."
We've discussed this a little bit here on Halos Heaven, but CBS and Forbes have new posts looking at Bryce Harper: Will A-Rod pass torch to Harper as most disliked? - CBSSports.com. "4. Outward arrogance/bad PR. While Harper works hard, never gets in trouble off the field and seems to have great intentions, he's had a few public relations issues already. He blew a kiss at a pitcher after homering off him in the minors last year. He was ejected from a game for screaming at an umpire. At the Future's Game last year, he missed a cutoff man that ended up costing his team a run, but in the locker room he said he didn't care that he just wanted to show off his arm. It also didn't help when a coach said he faced the most scrutiny of any player since Jackie Robinson (which isn't a comparison, but when the names are used side-by-side it just feels wrong to many)." The CBS article was in reference to this photo click-through post: America's Most Disliked Athletes - Forbes. A-Rod was the only baseball player on the list.
Yesterday's Halolinks had Dave Cameron's 10 Best Transactions, here's the flip-side: The 10 Worst Transactions Of The Winter - FanGraphs Baseball. "These moves represent transactions where the team gave up something of legitimate value and, in my estimation, aren’t likely to get enough back in return to justify their investment."
And finally, here are two posts about money, perception, and irony. The first, Reyes' hair sells for $10,200 on eBay - CBSSports.com. "Reyes had to cut his long hair because the Marlins have a policy in place that forbids long hair. It's probably a bit antiquated, but whatever, they are paying Reyes over $100 million for the next six seasons. The haircut was broadcast on MLB Network last Friday."
And...
Jeremy Affeldt: Master Of Irony - Hot Corner - Baseball Nation. "Affeldt's made $9 million the last two years, and will make another $5 million this year. He knows that 46 million Americans are using food stamps to get by, and complaining about the price of groceries is poor form when you're a millionaire. Unless you're being ironic."
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I dont think JDP is done
Gotta think one of the inevitable trades in the future will bring a reliever with it.
I think they were professional baseball players who play in the highest league in the world. But that’s just from memory. But seriously, over the past two years he has been brilliant in the majors. A 285 ERA+ in 2010 and 128 last year. His WHIP and H/9, K/9, BB/9 and K/BB are all indicative of him being a very good, sub 3 ERA guy.
I’m not saying he’s the greatest guy we have, but he is useful, gets outs often enough and was worth almost a full win last year in what was really his first full season’s worth of work. I don’t see him as someone who needs to be replaced.
Right-handed relievers
David Aardsma (29)
Luis Ayala (34)
Danys Baez (34)
Jason Isringhausen (39)
Scott Linebrink (35)
Ramon Ortiz (39)
Tony Pena (30)
Michael Wuertz (33)
Left-handed relievers
Mike Gonzalez (34)
Damaso Marte (37)
Arthur Rhodes (41) – Type B
I really don’t see any definite upgrades here. Aardsma possibly, but that’s hardly a lock.
yea holding batters over his career (and really only 1 year has he had more than 20 IP) in the 7-9 spot at a .254 average is pretty bad. Also the one year with a season in the MLB he held that same group to a .205 average.
The area he struggles the most with is actually the #6 hitter and besides that does pretty well against the rest of the lineup no matter batting position.
He’s been one of our best relievers the past couple years. He has good control, which is huge from a reliever. He’s not going to blow you away with his pure stuff, but he can put his pitches where he wants them, and that counts for a lot.
Of course, we can’t forget that he’s not “clutch,” which is certainly a problem.
but someone like you just “sorta liked him” instead of looking more deeply at the numbers and look at how well your “just something” methodology works.
pretty bad because his mechanics were all off and he had zero confidence. I wouldn’t be at all suprised to see the Ray’s have him turn it around they’ve done that with a few of their arms i.e. (Farnsworth, Peralta, Cruz)
Rodney also was pretty bad because he wasn't very good to begin with.
He’s had 2 out of 9 major league seasons with ERAs below 4 and 2 seasons with WHIPS below 1.3. 2005 and 2006, in both cases.
His walk rate explosion in 2011 was kind of out of nowhere(other than the relievers are unpredictable thing), but his 2011 was pretty much right in line with what he was in 2010.
The Affeldt thing is making something out of nothing
I definitely get annoyed about millionaires complaining about anything, but his comment just struck me as an off-the-cuff observation that was meant to be funny. I don’t think he was actually complaining. I can see how some would think it’s in poor taste, but I don’t think he meant it as anything other than humor.
Things like organic food and green energy have become too political/idealogical nowadays. Apparently it’s ok to make fun of high ballpark food prices, but don’t touch the precious organic produce.
2.31 ERA in 39 innings as a sarter
14.40 ERA in 5 innings as a releiver.
he also gave up 4 HRs as a reliever and 2 as a starter
Sample size is way too small to mean much, but he definitly did seem like a different player out of the ’pen those few times
the idea of playing in 3 very pitcher friendly ballparks (Big A, Safeco, Colesium), against 2 subpar teams (Oakaland and Seattle) , and being able to play with a contender while in a great city. I mean if he really wants to pitch for a team that could increase his value to possibly earn a bigger contract next season then the Angels would be his best bet. Hey maybe he might even just be waiting for the Halos to offer him a contract and that’s the reason he hasn’t signed yet haha but then again maybe not.
I dont think JDP is done
Gotta think one of the inevitable trades in the future will bring a reliever with it.
ihearhowie2.0 - February 9, 2012
pleaseeee
Sign another veteran relief pitcher..Rich Thompson scares me
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
racist
DAD OF VLAD - February 9, 2012
imposter
snowhor - February 9, 2012
Why?
128 ERA+, 9.3 K/9, 2.8 K/BB. I was actually pissed off I didn’t see him out there more often last season.
Commander_Nate - February 9, 2012
wish i could list
the batters he did that too.. he’s a mop up reliever you can’t trust in key situations
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
ummm
I think they were professional baseball players who play in the highest league in the world. But that’s just from memory. But seriously, over the past two years he has been brilliant in the majors. A 285 ERA+ in 2010 and 128 last year. His WHIP and H/9, K/9, BB/9 and K/BB are all indicative of him being a very good, sub 3 ERA guy.
stereoscopic - February 9, 2012
hes been in the majors 5 years
and barely has a 100 innings pitched.. isn’t clutch and has zero dominating pitches..he’s a below avg middle relief pitcher..
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
You must be watching different games than me
And define “clutch”.
I’m not saying he’s the greatest guy we have, but he is useful, gets outs often enough and was worth almost a full win last year in what was really his first full season’s worth of work. I don’t see him as someone who needs to be replaced.
Commander_Nate - February 9, 2012
just saying thompson
can be easily upgraded through free agency. Shields out of retirement is a better option. He faces a lot of 6-9 batters with little success.
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
Really? Because I'm not seeing any available relievers that I'm comfortable saying are upgrades over Thompson.
~MMP~ - February 9, 2012
This is the list of remaining FA relievers
Right-handed relievers
David Aardsma (29)
Luis Ayala (34)
Danys Baez (34)
Jason Isringhausen (39)
Scott Linebrink (35)
Ramon Ortiz (39)
Tony Pena (30)
Michael Wuertz (33)
Left-handed relievers
Mike Gonzalez (34)
Damaso Marte (37)
Arthur Rhodes (41) – Type B
I really don’t see any definite upgrades here. Aardsma possibly, but that’s hardly a lock.
~MMP~ - February 9, 2012
yea and Aardsma is coming of some injury as he didn't even play last season
Not sure he is a FA since he is in his last year of Arb this year anyway.
MoralesHomers - February 9, 2012
Which of the available relievers MMP listed makes the best "Clutch Face"?
You know, like the face Rick Vaughn makes in Major League? The face that makes everyone want to forget about the curve ball and just bring the heater?
gitchogritchoffmypetis - February 9, 2012
yea holding batters over his career (and really only 1 year has he had more than 20 IP) in the 7-9 spot at a .254 average is pretty bad. Also the one year with a season in the MLB he held that same group to a .205 average.
The area he struggles the most with is actually the #6 hitter and besides that does pretty well against the rest of the lineup no matter batting position.
MoralesHomers - February 9, 2012
Held #3 hitters to a .143 era this year and over his career a .205
MoralesHomers - February 9, 2012
I'm not sure what you have against Thompson
He’s been one of our best relievers the past couple years. He has good control, which is huge from a reliever. He’s not going to blow you away with his pure stuff, but he can put his pitches where he wants them, and that counts for a lot.
Of course, we can’t forget that he’s not “clutch,” which is certainly a problem.
Gorbachav5 - February 9, 2012
ehhh
Just my personal opinion..I’ve never really seen anything other than average from him.
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
Are you just throwing random thoughts out there?
Absolutely no facts back up your “opinions”
Very Lyle Spencer-ish.
SportsChicken - February 9, 2012
pretty much just random thoughts
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
at least judge the players by how nice their asses are
instead
Rev Halofan - February 9, 2012
In that case,
McAnulty leads our team in upside.
RexTookMyStash - February 9, 2012
Thats backside, not upside rex
Theres a BIG difference between the two with mcanulty
Balls and Strikes - February 9, 2012 via Android app
That's the kind of faulty logic that results in a Fernando Rodney signing.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
Damn it, I've been trying to forget about that asshole.
~MMP~ - February 9, 2012
rodney was a disgrace to the angels
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
You want a reliever that is clutch and has dominating pitches.
Rodney, when we signed him, was coming off a year where he had a 97% save percentage and a 97 mph fastball.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
His fastball sounds unhittable.
RexTookMyStash - February 9, 2012
Well, he's unwatchable.
That’s one way to “change the batter’s eye level” so maybe it does translate into unhittable.
Some guy at Del Taco just told me Dipoto should jump at the chance to get him.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
What will it take to get him
ItCouldHappen - February 9, 2012
$12m over 2 years, but you have to non-tender your most effective reliever to make room on the roster for him.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
Rodney might have been a disgrace
but someone like you just “sorta liked him” instead of looking more deeply at the numbers and look at how well your “just something” methodology works.
Rev Halofan - February 9, 2012
i never "sorta" liked rodney
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
Rodney was...
pretty bad because his mechanics were all off and he had zero confidence. I wouldn’t be at all suprised to see the Ray’s have him turn it around they’ve done that with a few of their arms i.e. (Farnsworth, Peralta, Cruz)
OppoTaco25 - February 9, 2012
Rodney also was pretty bad because he wasn't very good to begin with.
He’s had 2 out of 9 major league seasons with ERAs below 4 and 2 seasons with WHIPS below 1.3. 2005 and 2006, in both cases.
His walk rate explosion in 2011 was kind of out of nowhere(other than the relievers are unpredictable thing), but his 2011 was pretty much right in line with what he was in 2010.
~MMP~ - February 9, 2012
This^^^
snowhor - February 9, 2012
I've been getting more and more anxious when each day passes without bringing another reliever in
Dontbatvlad4th - February 9, 2012
Do you realize how much food a family of 5 eat?
now realize that family is part Italian, food cost just double,
I love my wife but rice and white bread is fine
DAD OF VLAD - February 9, 2012
FIXED:
FIXED:Yo-eleven. Less than 12, more than 10 days until pitchers/catchers & PUJOLS report Halolinks:
KB_24 - February 9, 2012
And Trumbomb
ItCouldHappen - February 9, 2012
Jeremy Affeldt
can say whatever he wants. His has fed more poor/homeless than I ever have.
NathanielS - February 9, 2012
Exactly
JeffJoiner - February 9, 2012
The Affeldt thing is making something out of nothing
I definitely get annoyed about millionaires complaining about anything, but his comment just struck me as an off-the-cuff observation that was meant to be funny. I don’t think he was actually complaining. I can see how some would think it’s in poor taste, but I don’t think he meant it as anything other than humor.
Gorbachav5 - February 9, 2012
Agreed
Things like organic food and green energy have become too political/idealogical nowadays. Apparently it’s ok to make fun of high ballpark food prices, but don’t touch the precious organic produce.
JeffJoiner - February 9, 2012
Rob Neyer is a complete dipshit and a horrible writer.
clover_black - February 9, 2012
Correction
$ESPN_WRITER is a complete dipshit and a horrible writer.
red floyd - February 9, 2012
I like the path with Wells and Trout -- and will get lit up for this comment
Wells was gripping the bat so hard last year, sawdust was squeezing out between his knuckles. Trout looked like he could use a little more seasoning.
Best case scenario is that Wells relaxes, puts up decent numbers, Trout gets some seasoning and holds off arbitration for another year.
Worst case scenario is that Wells gets off to a horrible start and Trout is in Salt Lake primed from playing every day.
JeffJoiner - February 9, 2012
Wells is awful and done being a useful major leaguer.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
I hope your are wrong, but wouldn't bet against it
Dipoto giving him a pat on the back and taking some pressure off him can only help, though.
JeffJoiner - February 9, 2012
His only use is as half of a platoon that only plays against LHPs.
.284/.320/.531 last year versus lefties. He’s a $21m part-timer.
snowhor - February 9, 2012
Can the Angels fire Reagins again?
~MMP~ - February 9, 2012
yes, actually
because he still works for the angels getting dennis kuhl his coffee
the king of CERA - February 9, 2012
Yep.
Bobby should be the other half of that platoon.
LosAngel - February 10, 2012 via mobile
And part of that worst case scenario is wells suck for a month is enough to cost us the division at the end of the season
Its going to be a tough division, we need every win we can get.
Balls and Strikes - February 9, 2012 via Android app
True
More reason to try and help him succeed right away. He’s going to get a shot at the start of the year.
JeffJoiner - February 9, 2012 via mobile
With Soths old man love? Wells'll get to suck at least 2 months before replacement.
Similarly, remember when he angrily benched Mathis for about 4 games? He just can’t bench “his boys”.
gitchogritchoffmypetis - February 9, 2012
Sign Oswalt
Move Williams and Richards to the pen
mustard_man - February 9, 2012
Wouldn't surprise me that that's Richards' future.
I think Williams excels as a starter.
wumbug - February 9, 2012
Yea id much rather see Williams as a starter than a reliever if last year was any indication of him in both roles.
MoralesHomers - February 9, 2012
2.31 ERA in 39 innings as a sarter
14.40 ERA in 5 innings as a releiver.
he also gave up 4 HRs as a reliever and 2 as a starter
Sample size is way too small to mean much, but he definitly did seem like a different player out of the ’pen those few times
the king of CERA - February 9, 2012
Yea it is a small sample size.
But as you said he looked different and the results and control were better it seemed.
MoralesHomers - February 10, 2012
this would be the ideal scenario
A bp with cassevah, downs, hawkins, walden, richards, and Williams would be nasty.
YOUknowulovetheIE - February 9, 2012 via mobile
Dude
That would be sick.
SportsChicken - February 9, 2012
I don't see any reason why Oswalt wouldn't want to play for us,
unless he hates sunny weather and winning.
I don’ t think he’s going to get $10MM though. With that kind of money, he could afford to shop at Whole Foods.
RexTookMyStash - February 9, 2012
Play on, Mr. Hamilton. Play on.
Caseys Kiss of Death - February 9, 2012
Oswalt is looking for a 1 year deal
how much is he trying to get?
SLOfan - February 9, 2012
From what i understand it's been less about the money.
And more about the teams/cities he will not play for/in.
Darth Duane - February 9, 2012
Close to his home in Missouri or something
so California probably wouldn’t do
Morales8 - February 9, 2012
we don't have enough biscuits and screened in porches and shit
the king of CERA - February 9, 2012
We have plenty of biscuits at Carl's Jr.
red floyd - February 10, 2012
If we could woo him over to the Angels
then that automatically gives the Angels the best rotation in baseball.
Morales8 - February 9, 2012
Thought we already had that.
wumbug - February 9, 2012
It needs to be BETTER, dammit
the king of CERA - February 9, 2012
I just want to announce that.....
much like about 40 major leaguers who either got fat or hurt last year, I AM IN THE BEST SHAPE OF MY LIFE and am looking forward to spring training.
gitchogritchoffmypetis - February 9, 2012
Oswalt should be WOOED by...
the idea of playing in 3 very pitcher friendly ballparks (Big A, Safeco, Colesium), against 2 subpar teams (Oakaland and Seattle) , and being able to play with a contender while in a great city. I mean if he really wants to pitch for a team that could increase his value to possibly earn a bigger contract next season then the Angels would be his best bet. Hey maybe he might even just be waiting for the Halos to offer him a contract and that’s the reason he hasn’t signed yet haha but then again maybe not.
OppoTaco25 - February 9, 2012
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