Angels great Tim Salmon received five votes for the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility. He needed five percent of the votes to remain on the ballot and did not get that. Barry Larkin was the only candidate elected by the writers this year. Full details at SBN's Baseball Nation. Full results follow here:
| Barry Larkin | 495 (86.4%) | 3 |
| Jack Morris | 382 (66.7%) | 13 |
| Jeff Bagwell | 321 (56.0%) | 2 |
| Lee Smith | 290 (50.6%) | 10 |
| Tim Raines | 279 (48.7%) | 5 |
| Alan Trammell | 211 (36.8%) | 11 |
| Edgar Martinez | 209 (36.5%) | 3 |
| Fred McGriff | 137 (23.9%) | 3 |
| Larry Walker | 131 (22.9%) | 2 |
| Mark McGwire | 112 (19.5%) | 6 |
| Don Mattingly | 102 (17.8%) | 12 |
| Dale Murphy | 83 (14.5%) | 14 |
| Rafael Palmeiro | 72 (12.6%) | 2 |
| Bernie Williams | 55 (9.6%) | 1 |
| Juan Gonzalez | 23 (4.0%) | 2 |
| Vinny Castilla | 6 (1.0%) | 1 |
| Tim Salmon | 5 (0.9%) | 1 |
| Bill Mueller | 4 (0.7%) | 1 |
| Brad Radke | 2 (0.3%) | 1 |
| Javy Lopez | 1 (0.2%) | 1 |
| Eric Young | 1 (0.2%) | 1 |
| Jeromy Burnitz | 0 (0%) | 1 |
| Brian Jordan | 0 (0%) | 1 |
| Terry Mulholland | 0 (0%) | 1 |
| Phil Nevin | 0 (0%) | 1 |
| Ruben Sierra | 0 (0%) | 1 |
| Tony Womack | 0 (0%) | 1 |
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How many votes did Juan Gonzalez get last year?
I didn’t realize people receded in the voting process over the years. I thought, perhaps, once a voter was sure one was HOF material, they wouldn’t waver (without mitigating factors, like McGwire’s admission).
matthiasstephan - January 9, 2012
Tim Raines
It’s a shame he isn’t in yet. I think his candidacy deserves to be the next cause célèbre of advanced thinkers, now that Blyleven has made it.
I’m curious who the five were who voted for our dear Timmy. Nice to see him acknowledged, in any case.
jjackflash - January 9, 2012
Agreed
Tim Raines was one of my favorite players to watch as a kid. The kind of guy you watch and wish was on your team.
Had he played for the Skanks or Sux he would have been in a long time ago.
JeffJoiner - January 9, 2012
Not necessarily true
He DID play for the Yankees. In fact, he won the World Series with them in 1998. The problem is that by then he was pretty much a part-time player. So even though he was still good for the Yankees, he wasn’t a headliner on the team.
That’s actually what his problem was for the entire last half of his career. Injuries limited him to around 100 – 120 games a year. He faded in a lot of peoples’ minds, even though A) He was still a very good player and B) He was an absolute beast during his prime.
The other main problem with perception of Raines is that his beastliness was always viewed as less beastly compared to the greatest leadoff hitter ever who happened to play at the exact same time as Rock – Rickey Henderson.
Gorbachav5 - January 9, 2012
Correction
He won a World Series with the Yankees in 1996. He was on the team in 1998, but didn’t get a World Series at bat.
Gorbachav5 - January 9, 2012
Timing is everything
He played during the same era as Henderson and didn’t get to NY until it was too late. Had his Expos years been played in pinstripes I’m sure he would have gotten in already. Of course, if Henderson wasn’t around, that also might have done it.
JeffJoiner - January 9, 2012
Sad but not surprised
Salmon is a beloved Angel, not a Hall of Famer.
JeffJoiner - January 9, 2012
The rest of the country sure doesn't think much of our Angels
“Had he played for the Skanks or Sux …”
Unclearnie - January 9, 2012
Oops - replied to wrong JeffJoiner post
Should have been to:
Agreed
Tim Raines was one of my favorite players to watch as a kid. The kind of guy you watch and wish was on your team.
Had he played for the Skanks or Sux he would have been in a long time ago.
Unclearnie - January 9, 2012
I Think He's Okay With That
He’s Angels royalty as long as he draws breath and he’s got a World Series ring. Not too shabby.
Kernel - January 9, 2012
I've met a few Hall of Famers and Tim Salmon
Ferguson Jenkins, Goose Gossage, Rollie Fingers….
I was more excited to meet Tim Salmon. Seriously felt like I was about three feet off the ground for week or so.
JeffJoiner - January 9, 2012
Someone Vote For Brad Radke
My first response was: “Really?”
RyÅn Krol - January 9, 2012
Esther Radke. Sports Editor for the Bangor Pilot.
Thanks, mom!
Stirrups - January 9, 2012
What if I don't want to Bangor Pilot?
Can I hire a stripper to do it?
red floyd - January 9, 2012
Probably from Minnesota
The few Twins fans I know love Brad Radke.
RICangelfan - January 9, 2012
Vinny Castilla got 6 votes.
Balls and Strikes - January 9, 2012
Does anybody else find it interesting
that pitchers get a phenomenal amount more credit for impact on the game when they are active, as opposed to when they are retired, versus position players?
Stirrups - January 9, 2012
ONE VOTE BETTER THEN
BILLY MUELLER? REALLY
FUCK THEM
DAD OF VLAD - January 9, 2012
55 votes for Bernie Williams...
WTF???
ryanfea - January 9, 2012
Also no joke votes for Tony Womack?
That’s too bad. If I was a baseball writer I’d have one joke vote every year
ryanfea - January 9, 2012
I would be so excited for the chance to write in Jeff Mathis.
~MMP~ - January 9, 2012
We was on the ZOMG YANKEES!!!!! HE'S TEH AW3SOM3!!!
red floyd - January 9, 2012
Salmon was great in his prime
.290/.390/.520 with 90 walks, 30 doubles, 30 homeruns and a cannon in RF. He did that for 9 out of 10 years. But then he had the knee surgery and rotator cuff issues, and he just couldn’t extend the decline phase. I think he would have been great as a DH for five years from ages 35 – 39 had he stayed relatively healthy. He might have approached 400 homeruns, and would have easily passed 2,000 hits. With a great season in there he might have a approached 50 WAR, although that’s a bit of a stretch. Maybe still short of HOF, but a lot closer.
He was one of my favorites. I loved seeing him in the middle of the lineup and with his sliding catches out there in right. Watching him hoist the World Series trophy is my best memory from that night.
Gorbachav5 - January 9, 2012
Bernie Williams is the same fucking player as Salmon
someone explain how he’s worth 11x the vote total.
Caseys Kiss of Death - January 9, 2012
Yankees
BruinHalo - January 9, 2012
SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW HE'S WORTH 11x THE VOTE TOTAL
WITHOUT MENTIONING TEAM AFFILIATION
Caseys Kiss of Death - January 9, 2012
people in new york
like the taste of each other
Rev Halofan - January 9, 2012
Hmmm...
6.5/10.
Not bad. Needs improvement.
Caseys Kiss of Death - January 9, 2012
From 1996-2002 he hit .323/.408/.538 while playing Gold Glove CF for a 4-time WS champeen
That’s a pretty good run. Salmon did his .294/.396/.532 from ’93-00, but it was in RF, for a team known mostly for disappointment.
Bernie’s 22nd all-time in WAR for CFers after 1901 (w/ 47.3), Salmon’s 37th all-time in WAR for RFers (w/ 37.6). He wasn’t 11x the player, but nor was Larkin twice the shortstop than Alan Trammell.
mattwelch - January 9, 2012
Lol at Bernie Williams and Gold Gloves in the sam sentence
ryanfea - January 9, 2012
True dat
Though I’m still surprised to see that our Tim — who I remember as a terrific right fielder during his prime — was not measured as such by B-ref’s WAR.
mattwelch - January 10, 2012
Bernie was also an abortion of a CFer
screw his gold gloves, and screw guys who get extra credit on offense for the defensive position they play, when they can’t even hold down that position.
Caseys Kiss of Death - January 9, 2012
As a former abortion, that is very offensive to me.
5thStarter - January 9, 2012
I didn't sit down from age 5-20 to watch any of those other fools
King Fish for life!!!
Commander_Nate - January 9, 2012
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salmonforever - January 9, 2012 via mobile
Timmy is my hero
and a hall of famer to me for his personality
IWishWeStillHadTimSalmon - January 10, 2012 via Android app
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