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Where Are They Now? Top Angel Prospects of 2005 (Part 2)

Today we are looking at two former top prospects whose major-league performances have left relatively few doubts about their capabilities: Casey Kotchman and Jeff Mathis. Unfortunately, that's about all they have going for them at the moment.

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If you missed Part, here is the link. Extra credit if you spot the hidden popular music reference in the poll.

Casey Kotchman (1B)

Where He Was

Tom Kotchman, who scouted the southeastern US for the Angels, convinced the team to spend its #13 pick on his son in the 2001 amateur draft. Yet there were no complaints of nepotism as Casey's stock quickly  rose in the minor leagues. He hit .281 with an astounding 17% walk rate as a 19 year-old in Low A. The California League, where he hit .348 / .434 / .531 in 2003, just wasn't a match for him. He was in Anaheim before long. The Angels called him up in May of 2004 and again in September, but his two cups of coffee were unproductive. He spent the balance of the season laughing at the competition in AA and AAA from the condescending height of a .371 batting average. Casey hiccuped the next year in Salt Lake, his .289 / .372 / .441 line not up to the usual level of humiliation he inflicted on minor league pitchers. However, he did hit .302 / .369 / .526 over the final two months of the season in an extended major-league call-up. While technically no longer a "prospect" by the end of 2005, Casey Kotchman was still one of the most promising young players in the game.

What They Said

Struggled in the early going in Triple-A, but finished on a good note...A possible comp for the future: Wally Joyner. #1 organizational prospect, Grade: A- (pre-2005) -- John Sickels

"He's such a good hitter and he's still developing. I think he'll easily hit 30-plus homers in the majors." #6 prospect overall (pre-2005) -- Baseball America (quoting a scout)

In addition to the health issues, the other big question with Kotchman is whether or not he will develop into a legit power hitter...Right now he looks like a first baseman in the Mark Grace/Keith Hernandez/John Olerud-mold -- a left-handed hitter capable of big batting averages, good plate discipline, and great defense, but with "doubles power." Of course, being the next Grace, Hernandez or Olerud isn't exactly the worst thing to be for a 22-year-old prospect. #7 prospect overall (pre-2005) -- Baseball Think Factory

Where Is He Now?

Seattle. But getting there was a complicated story. Kotchman was a long time securing a major-league job, despite the Angels' desperate need of a first baseman during 2004-2006. The organization stuck with Darin Erstad as long as possible, but Casey contracted his now-famous bout of mononucleosis in 2006 when injuries finally hobbled Erstad for good. (I didn't pity him; I had mono in high school, but my sad teenage self could only wish it had caught it making out.) Epstein-Barr virus notwithstanding, Kotchman turned around to hit .296 / .372 / .467 in 2007, walking more than he struck out and playing outstanding defense. Fangraphs indicates that he racked up 3.3 WAR in spite of a mid-season concussion. Concerns over his home run power appeared justified, as he hit only 11 of them, but 51 total extra-base hits in 443 AB talked the loudest.

2008 started well enough, although his patience mysteriously evaporated in favor of a make-contact-or-die strategy at the plate. He put up a .287 / .328 / .448 line before Tony Reagins turned him into Mark Teixeira. His walk rate recovered during his stint with Atlanta, but his overall productiveness at the plate deteriorated. The Braves flipped him for Adam LaRoche in mid-2009, landing Kotchman a spot on Boston's bench down the stretch. He didn't do a thing for them offensively, so they traded him to Seattle for Bill Hall during the off-season.

Right now, Kotchman is just one more bad hitter on a team full of bad hitters. He's batting just .215 / .288 / .345, and he lost his starting job to Justin Smoak until the Mariners sent Smoak back to AAA a couple of weeks ago. Casey is still struggling with the same issue that's dogged him since he first tried on a major-league jersey: weak contact. He pounds the ball into the ground nearly as often as groundout king Howie Kendrick, but he's even more susceptible to pop-ups. While he can still pick it, his overall performance this year is below replacement level. Kotchman has one remaining season of arbitration, but with Justin Smoak standing by, it's inconceivable that the Mariners will pay the $2.8+ million he's guaranteed to receive if they tender him a contract for 2011. He'll probably catch on in a platoon somewhere else, but his future is seriously in doubt. He should be in his playing prime at only 27 years of age, but Kotchman appears to have peaked early and quickly fallen off a cliff. It's an unusual career arc, but not unheard of (Bobby Crosby comes to mind). I hate to say it, but it's hard to see Casey Kotchman amounting to much more than a left-handed bench bat at this point.

Jeff Mathis (C)

Where He Was

Man, it's difficult to write this with a straight face, but Jeff Mathis was once a smoking hot catching prospect. After the Angels selected Mathis in the supplemental first round of the 2001 amateur draft, #33 overall, he proceeded to make Baseball America's Top 100 list every year from 2003 to 2006, peaking at #22 in 2004. He had a promising debut season at Cedar Rapid in 2002, but his bat showed inconsistencies as he moved up the ladder. Mathis stumbled from a quality .872 OPS at Rancho Cucamonga in 2003 to an uninspiring .703 OPS with the Arkansas Travelers in 2004. His prospects were down at the start of 2005, but a .276 / .340 / .499 line at AAA Salt Lake seemed to indicate that the Mathface was back. His offensive ceiling had clearly lowered, but hey, did you hear the he was supposed to be a quarterback at Florida State, just like Joe Mauer? Scouts praised Mathis as a gritty intangibles guy, evidently drawn in by his tall, agile physique, which is unusual for a catcher. I'll admit, he does look good in a uniform.

What They Said

Batting average is low for park/league context, but other numbers were solid. Looking more like a good regular than a possible future star, but still has lots of value. #6 organizational prospect, Grade: B -- John Sickels

"I've loved him forever. I think he's probably better defensively than offensively because of his intangibles. I love his makeup." #60 overall prospect -- Baseball America (quoting a scout)

Much like with pitching prospects there are so many things that can go wrong for catching prospects on the way from the low minors to the big leagues, including position changes, offensive stagnation, and injuries. While Mathis may never be a superstar...he has a starting job for this season and is ready to begin what should be a long career as an above-average backstop. I have some concerns about his ability to post good batting averages, but if Mathis can hit even .250 he has enough power, plate discipline, and defensive skills to be a very valuable player. #28 prospect overall -- Baseball Think Factory

Where Is He Now?

As it turns out, the only "makeup" Jeff Mathis has to love is the kind he keeps in his purse. His bat began to canker at AAA Salt Lake as he slowly transitioned to the majors during the 2005-2007 seasons. The Angels briefly experimented with him as Jose Molina's backup in 2006, but his total befuddlement in the batter's box all but punched Mike Napoli's plane ticket to Anaheim. By 2007 Mathis was reduced to a .244 / .295 / .376 batting line during his last stretch in the Pacific Coast League, a renowned hitter's paradise. Meanwhile, Mike Napoli was clubbing home runs at a rate historic for the Angels franchise. But when the Angels traded Jose Molina for a bucket of Gatorade in July 2007 only to see Napoli go down with an injury a few days later, Mathis got his first everyday job. As mere "defensive relief," however, news of his assignment was more whimper than bang.

It's hard to imagine a measure of defensive prowess that could have justified Mathis's cluelessness with the stick. Unfortunately, he's almost as bad behind the plate as he is beside it. A 23% caught-stealing rate, to go along with 31 errors, is just about the defensive equivalent of a .204 career batting average. Mathis owns both. Nevertheless, he's managed to retain his reputation as a gritty intangibles guy thanks to a fortuitous CERA and a willingness to take hits on plays at the plate. This is all so much grasping at straws, as just about anyone would look like a defensive wizard sharing time with Mike Napoli, probably the worst receiver in MLB. But Napoli can hit, while Mathis is bad at literally everything there is to be bad at.

Lightning seemed to strike twice when Mathis went 8-for-16 in the 2009 playoffs and followed up with an 11-for-34 streak to kick off 2010, but regression was inevitable, as two-thirds of Mathis's at-bats end with either a whiff or a weak fly ball. But these are simply details. There's no need to rehash the endless discussion abounding on this site over Mike Scioscia's puzzling mancrush on Jeff Mathis. It was shocking enough that he was tendered a contract, and even more shocking that he won his case in arbitration. 2010 may thankfully be the end of the line, as Mathis seems to be gradually losing his job to Bobby Wilson, who does not yet conclusively suck. I'll take that over a guy who's definitely proved it any day.

To be continued: I told you Part 2 would be pretty grim, but the biggest bust will come tomorrow in Part 3. Scariest thing is, it's not even Brandon Wood!

Poll
Which of the following former top prospects is the bigger bust?
Casey Kotchman (high expectations)
333 votes
Jeff Mathis (low results)
261 votes

594 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

mathis is the disappointment

at least kotchman makes sense in certain situations. the only situation mathis makes sense in is “my manager loves me.”

but he was awesome in the playoffs last year.

I though Kotchman had finally figured it out in '07, until he got beaned in the back of the head...

…on that pick-off throw at 2B by Russell Martin. IIRC, he was batting around .330 at the time he was beaned (though still power deficient). Too bad…I really like his work ethic and defensive ability. I thought he’d be our first baseman for the indefinite future.

The bust is Kotch, before long everyone knew Mathis would only be an average player

Kotch was receiving praises and comps of being like the next HOF defensive wizard at 1B.

Mathis an average player?

Which major-league catchers, with sufficient amounts of playing time in the last few seasons, are worse than Jeff Mathis?

According to this list

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=n&type=6&season=2010&month=12

None. Everyone who has been worse over the past 3 years are backups who would consider themselves lucky to get into 40 games a year.

Oddly enough, Bobby Wilson is ahead of Mathis.

Mathis is on page 4 on that list.
Scioscia man-crush

Although Kotchman was the biggest bust, the bigger puzzlement is Mathis, since he’s still on the team, and Scioscia still gets fits where he thinks that Mathis should be playing (although, thankfully not as much).

It's a mystery

Kotchman was just too good to end up like this. Injuries, illness, mental meltdown … who knows?

What is interesting is that he is the closest comp that I can think of to Justin Smoak. 1st round picks. Top 50 rated minor league players. Both with outstanding OB skills, gap power (that would hopefully grow into a consistent 20-25 HR seasons), and plus gloves. In fact, Kotchman was absolutely the better prospect at the same time of their respective career (better BA/glove).

I never had much confidence in Mathis. And frankly, didn’t care that much about it when he came up. I just wanted Naps bat in the lineup every day. The fact that Mathis has been so far below average is just rubbing it in.

We need to see what we have in Trumbo. If he looks like a legit starter then he should be moved to fill in other gaps on the roster. In that case, I would love to see Kotchman come back as a defensive replacement/pinch hitter. I still hold out hope that something is going to click for him. Not hard to imagine him returning to a nice offensive bat with GG caliber defense.

lets also not forget

that Kotch had some issues with Scioscia too. That could play a role in him not coming back

I think this just goes to my point

about how when we make a trade and posters on HH are pissed at the front office for trading away our ‘awesome prospects’
Remember how many prospects get touted quite highly and what the percentage is that actually turn into stars. And while I admit that wrecking the farm system is unproductive and not wise, it is however in my mind better to get a player that you can closely guess their production in a given year instead of an unproven prospect.
When Jeff Mathis and Kotchman were ‘hot prospects’ the evaluation of players from scouts is once again proven to be a art more than a science.

Salt Lake City

Is it time to move the AAA team from Salt Lake? It seems that the vast majority of our up and coming prospects over the past several years have either turn out to be busts or have been far less than advertised (McPherson, Wood, Kendrick, Mathis, etc). Could it be that the park effects in SLC are causing players to alter their games to maximize their numbers there?

^ this ^

Vegas Please

Wouldn't the dry desert air still make it a hitter's paradise?

And isn’t their already a Vegas team? Why not put a team in the international league? That would be my pipe dream at least.

um, it would be a fantastic excuse to go to vegas...

like there needs to be one.

are there any other cities in america that have two AAA teams in the same town that are in the same league?

Because your right vegas is a great place to go. I go atleast 3 times a year and they do have a AAA team there the Las Vegas 51’s affiliates of the BlueJays. Btw there stadium is really nice just hotter then satans balls even though all the games are night games that start at 7:05 lol

Ok, fine. Be selfish.
Vegas is pretty much the same thing
Agreed

I think major league clubs should do their best to make their minor league parks mimic their big league parks as much as possible. They don’t have to be identical, but should play in the same way. That would benefit pitchers and catchers.

MATHIS

Maybe… just maybe… Mike Scioscia is not as good at evaluating catching talent.

For example, Picasso did not have a great art collection – just because he was one of the best at his position id not mean he had the ability to measure greatness among the younger people following in his footsteps.

I am amazed that Kotch lost his OBP skills.

I thought he was going to be a OBP monster

This really gets me excited for Trout/Conger/Reckling/Bourjos
Mathis By A Mile

Kotchman was actually decent with the Angels. Some people were actually upset when he was dealt for Texeria. Since that trade, Kotch has lost it.

Mathis was the main reason why the team didn’t resign Bengie Molina. He was handed the #1 catcher position without ever showing anything in The Show. He is Scioscia’s pet. How this guy was ever the number 2 catching prospect behind Joe Mauer is a mystery.

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