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They traded for Dan Haren?  Oh crap, we're screwed!

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They traded for Dan Haren? Oh crap, we're screwed!

Angels lose to Rangers, 6-4 - latimes.com
The Angels' Trevor Bell (1-2), making his first major league start since August, allowed 10 of the 18 batters he faced in 3 1/3 innings to reach base, with two of the outs he recorded coming on the basepaths after he gave up a hit. Nevertheless, there was late drama after Hideki Matsui hit a two-run home run in the seventh inning and the Angels brought the tying run to the plate in the ninth inning against closer Neftali Feliz. Hunter and Matsui opened the inning with singles to put runners on first and third with none out. Alberto Callaspo drove in a run with a fielder's choice, but Feliz retired the next two batters to record his 28th save. "Three out of four, they did what they had to do," Hunter said. "They did their thing. We came to their house and they held it down.

Star-divide

The Angels suffered the second-worst of outcome scenarios in Texas losing 3 of 4 games to the Rangers and falling 7 games out of first and just a half game ahead of Oakland.  Have some highlights:  Torii torches a homer to straightaway center - Torii Hunter hammers a homer to straightaway center to get the Halos on the scoreboard in the top of the second inning, Andrus makes an amazing diving stop at short - Elvis Andrus makes an awe-striking play at short, diving in the hole for a grounder, then firing a laser across the diamond, Mathis takes a huge hit to make a huge tag - Jeff Mathis withstands a violent collision at home plate with the Rangers' Chris Davis, but somehow hangs onto the ball for the out, Matsui mashes a two-run shot to deep right - Hideki Matsui hammers a two-run home run to deep right field, his 13th of the 2010 campaign. 

 A dog skateboards at the Rangers' game -  Proving the Rangers' ballplayers are not the only athletes in the stadium, a bulldog skateboards outside the stadium.  And proving dogs are smarter than one of the Ranger broadcast dorks.  Check out the crash this idiot suffers at the end of this clip.

Red Sox-Angels Preview -  FOX Sports on MSN
While Haren isn't slated to take the mound until Wednesday's finale, the opener features a solid pitching matchup between the Angels' Joel Pineiro (10-7, 4.18 ERA) and Boston's Clay Buchholz (10-5, 2.81). Both are trying to bounce back from disappointing losses. Pineiro allowed six runs and 11 hits in six innings of Wednesday's 10-6 loss to the Yankees, his first defeat since June 1. The right-hander was 7-0 with a 2.51 ERA over his previous eight starts. Buchholz, 2-2 with a 6.35 ERA in four career starts against Los Angeles, gave up four runs and eight hits in 5 2-3 innings of a 17-8 win over the Angels on May 3.

Here's what's being written about the Dan Haren deal...

 Haren reacts to his trade to the Angels - Video - MLB.com: Multimedia
Dan Haren speaks to the media about being traded to the Angels for Joe Saunders and three prospects

Trading Tony does it again - Lyle Spencer - MLB.com
The Angels' general manager once again has pulled the trigger on a potentially explosive midseason deal. That's three in three seasons, Mark Teixeira and Scott Kazmir having preceded new Angels starter Dan Haren to Anaheim.Reagins said he might not be done shopping, and he has no financial constraints. If the right bat surfaces at the right cost, he'll make a stealth move, as he always does. The guy moves in the shadows, BlackBerry attached to his ear, and when he emerges he tends to make things happen. The GM must like the organizational depth on the mound, having detached six arms to acquire Haren and Alberto Callaspo.

Haren helps, but maybe not enough for 2010 - CBSSports.com
Things were going so bad for the Angels that one scout who just finished touring the American League West said this weekend, "Oakland has a better chance of catching Texas than the Angels do."

Angels acquire Haren - MLB Facts and Rumors - CBSSports.com
Well, that was a shock.

Dan Haren trade surprising, but is it good for Angels? - Ken Rosenthal - FOX Sports on MSN
OK, they got me. Frankly, I should have expected it. The Angels usually operate in stealth fashion, and frequently pull off surprises.

Angels' trade coup for Haren leaves D-backs with little in return - Joe Sheehan - SI.com
Striking out of the blue, Angels GM Tony Reagins completed a trade that not only makes his team better over the next 10 weeks, but better over the next three seasons.

Angels fleeced D'backs in Haren deal -  Yahoo! Sports
The Angels depantsed the Arizona Diamondbacks. They stole Dan Haren(notes) in a trade and left the directionless D’backs naked and with nowhere to hide.

Angels Acquire Dan Haren - FanGraphs Baseball
In a deal that comes as a major shock to the system, the Angels have acquired Dan Haren from the Diamondbacks. The Angels were never mentioned during the discussion of potential destinations for Haren, so this deal flew under the radar until it’s completion and subsequent announcement.

Kazmir won't be ready to return any time soon  - The Orange County Register
Left-hander Scott Kazmir is eligible to come off the DL on Monday. But don't look for the struggling left-hander to rejoin the Angels' rotation any time soon. Kazmir was supposed to resume throwing sooner and even throw a bullpen session during this weekend's series in Texas. But he underwent an MRI on Thursday during which dye was injected into his shoulder. It will likely take two weeks for Kazmir to progress to long toss and possibly throw in a simulated game or rehab assignment before returning to the Angels' rotation.

Angels " Win Probability " Sunday, July 25, 2010 - FanGraphs Baseball

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July 26 - BR Bullpen
1992: California's Von Hayes collects three ribbies on a bases-loaded single. Rene Gonzales scores from first base on the 2-out single as the Angels beat the Tigers, 4 - 3. Hayes' is the second 3-RBI single this year.
2008 - Garret Anderson becomes the first player in Angels franchise history to score 1,000 runs. The Los Angeles club tops the Orioles, 11 - 6. The big star of the day is Torii Hunter, in his second day back from bereavement leave. Hunter homers twice, singles once, walks twice, scores four and drives in five to lead the charge.
Happy b-day:
1984 - Kevin Jepsen, pitcher

 

American League West
Team W L Pct. GB






Texas 58 41 .586 -






L.A. Angels 52 49 .515 7






Oakland 50 48 .510






Seattle 39 60 .394 19






 

Well, that sucked:

Los Angeles Angels
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Erick Aybar, SS 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 .286
Maicer Izturis, 2B 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 .242
Bobby Abreu, RF 3 1 0 0 1 0 1 .252
Torii Hunter, CF 4 2 2 1 0 0 1 .292
Hideki Matsui, DH 4 1 2 2 0 0 0 .252
Alberto Callaspo, 3B 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 .272
Howard Kendrick, 1B 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 .272
Juan Rivera, LF 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 .257
Jeff Mathis, C 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 .234
   a- Reggie Willits, PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .261
    Bobby Wilson, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
Totals 33 4 6 4 2 1    
a-flied out for Mathis in the 8th
Batting
HR - Torii Hunter (16, Hunter), Hideki Matsui (13, Hunter)
RBI - Torii Hunter (64), Hideki Matsui 2 (53), Alberto Callaspo (46)
SB - Maicer Izturis (5, 2nd base off Francisco/Molina)
Team LOB - 4
Fielding
Outfield Assists - Bobby Abreu 1, Torii Hunter 1, Juan Rivera 1
Texas Rangers
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
Elvis Andrus, SS 4 0 2 0 1 0 2 .273
Michael Young, 3B 5 1 2 1 0 1 2 .302
Ian Kinsler, 2B 5 2 2 0 0 1 3 .303
Vladimir Guerrero, DH 4 0 1 0 0 1 2 .309
Josh Hamilton, CF 4 1 3 3 0 1 0 .357
Nelson Cruz, RF 4 0 2 1 0 0 2 .330
David Murphy, LF 2 1 0 0 2 0 0 .257
Bengie Molina, C 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .251
Chris Davis, 1B 2 1 1 1 2 1 0 .200
Totals 34 6 13 6 5 6    
Batting
2B - Elvis Andrus (12, Bell), Chris Davis (8, Bell)
3B - Josh Hamilton (3, Bell)
RBI - Michael Young (59), Josh Hamilton 3 (74), Nelson Cruz (54), Chris Davis (3)
2-OUT RBI - Michael Young (23), Josh Hamilton 2 (26), Nelson Cruz (18)
SB - David Murphy (5, 2nd base off Bell/Mathis)
Team LOB - 9
 
Los Angeles Angels
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Trevor Bell (L,1-2) 3.1 8 4 4 2 2 0 6.75
Francisco Rodriguez 1.2 2 1 1 0 0 0 3.71
Scot Shields 2 2 1 1 3 2 0 5.61
Brian Fuentes 1 1 0 0 0 2 0 3.68
WP - Francisco Rodriguez (5), Scot Shields (3)
Pitches-Strikes - Trevor Bell 66-39, Francisco Rodriguez 23-13, Scot Shields 37-19, Brian Fuentes 21-13
Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Trevor Bell 3-3, Francisco Rodriguez 4-0, Scot Shields 1-3, Brian Fuentes 1-0
Batters Faced - Trevor Bell 18, Francisco Rodriguez 6, Scot Shields 11, Brian Fuentes 4
Texas Rangers
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Tommy Hunter (W,8-0) 6.1 3 3 3 1 1 2 2.31
Darren O'Day (H,14) 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.36
Frank Francisco (H,13) 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3.83
Neftali Feliz (S,28) 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 3.74
Pitches-Strikes - Tommy Hunter 68-46, Darren O'Day 9-6, Frank Francisco 23-15, Neftali Feliz 16-11
Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Tommy Hunter 7-11, Darren O'Day 2-0, Frank Francisco 2-1, Neftali Feliz 3-0
Batters Faced - Tommy Hunter 23, Darren O'Day 3, Frank Francisco 4, Neftali Feliz 5
 
Game Information
Attendance - 38320
Game Time - 2:49
Temperature - 96
Umpires - Home - Greg Gibson, First Base - Brian Knight, Second Base - Gerry Davis, Third Base - Chris Tiller
Poll
Did the Angels address their biggest need in acquiring Dan Haren?
Yes, strong starting pitching is most important.
95 votes
No, the Angels need more offense to win this season.
302 votes
No, their bigget weakness is the bullpen.
115 votes

512 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

Can someone explain

Why we just acquired an ace and it would seem relatively easy to set him up to pitch against both the Red Sox and Rangers immediately and maybe give this team a jump start, but instead Soth sets him up to pitch against the Red Sox and…… wait for it…. the Orioles…..

Washington has said he’s going to start Cliff Lee every fifth day regardless of how that effects his other 4 starters. While I wouldn’t go that far with Haren, why can’t he start tonight and move Pinero back a few games after Weaver.

To me this just seems like another braindead decision like starting Maffis instead of Napoli last night.

Uhh...

’Cause Cliff Lee is a 2010 rental and Haren is not? Texas will flog him like a rented pack mule for the the rest of the season.

Exactly. Nolan Ryan and Ron Washington are perfectly happy to pitch Lee's arm off this season.

They don’t care that he will start the first month of the 2011 season on the DL with the MFY just like he did this season with the Mariners.

Did you even read my post?????

I said I WOULDN’T start Haren every fifth day like Washingcrack is going to do with Lee. But I did say, why not let him pitch tonight so that he gets to pitch to the Rangers as well.

I'm still confused...

but, no worries. Wasn’t really my intention to snipe at anything you’d written.

Was mostly pointing out how Texas is very likely to overuse Lee in their own, short-term interests. They are all-in with him. They gave up the former #2 prospect in all of baseball (plus!) for a shot at 3 months of – they hope – glory. They’re probably not worrying much about his longer term health, because they have little chance of having him in the longer term.

I know YOU know all of this but it is still interesting food for thought.

Personally, I hope they ride him all the way to the point of pissing him off.

yea I agree with all that

Texas is going to overuse him, and I hope it’s just enough to make him come up with like elbow problems next May when he’s in the Yanks rotation.

All I was saying to clear it up, was don’t start Haren every fifth day regardless of who is scheduled to pitch like Washington is going to do, but DO have him start tonight so that he faces the Rangers in the next series. Soth has since done exactly what I wrote.

I think texas has a shot at keeping Lee

unless Lee doesn’t mind changing teams again

Haren

is starting tonight…Weaver vs. Lackey and Piniero vs. Beckett.

That's a hellofa

series.

Weaver vs. Lackey!

I hope Weave spanks his ass and doesn’t even say a word.

This should set up

Santana, Haren, and Weaver for next weekend against Texas.

With an off day Thursday and Kazmir out for awhile, it is the perfect time to skip the 5th spot in the rotation.

That sounds about right

I feel fairly confident having Santana/Haren/Weaver against the Rangers.

Didn't quite realize that Haren...

…has allowed the most hits in the NL of any starting pitcher. Coming to the AL, that could be a bit of a concern despite his K/BB, etc.

I’m excited because the team needed a jolt, and we all know how prospects have worked with this team recently…

I’m just praying this won’t turn into a _ _ _ _ _ _ situation. I won’t dare mention his name any more and risk any ill luck ;)

And on the plus side, also according to...

this, his .364, the best by a player whose primary position was pitcher (minimum 50 PA) since Carl Scheib hit .396 for the 1951 Philadelphia Athletics.

I know people joke about inserting him into the line up but can it really be any worse than some of our other options :P

If only injury wasn’t a risk, I’d say do it! Imagine the news it would make, even if for a day…

Do it!

DH for Mathis!

I wonder who and when the last team was that started a pitcher...

…in the line-up in non-interleague play in the AL and because they actually wanted his bat in the line up.

There had to be someone in the 40’s and 50’s that did it once or twice? Some baseball historian must know…

Rick Rhoden

With the Yankees, mid-late 80s, was used as a hitter. It may have happened more than once, but as the DH on 06/11/88, he went 0-1 with a Sac Fly & RBI.

Everyone in the AL started pitchers in the line-up during the 40's and 50's.
He's been very unlucky with balls in play

Opponents batting average with balls in play is .350, which is absurd. His career average is around .300, so I don’t see him continuing to allow so many hits (and home runs), especially now that he’s gotten away from the sandbox known as Chase Field.

Couldn't answer the question

Offense and range in the outfield are the biggest weaknesses for this team, in my opinion. Joe Saunders was OK, starting pitching was not a big weakness. But the team can improve more by getting a legitimate star in Haren to improve what is already a strength than by trading for an average player (say, Callaspo) to help the offense.

The outfield is the biggest liability.

Offense is second.

Strange move, can’t disagree with it though. But what’s the point in putting Dan Haren out there, when you have a couple statues in the field?

Dan Haren strikes a lot of people out

And strikeouts don’t drop in front of Juan Rivera’s ankles. Also, I’ve never seen a strikeout turn into a double because Torii Hunter and Bobby Abreu can’t get to a ball hit in front of them fast enough.

Jered Weaver strikes out more.

And this team repays him with a 9-6 record.

Which ain't great

And is a good example of why grading pitchers by W/L record is mostly a bad idea.

Bring up Bourjous and that solves the outfield D-Fence!

Rivera is struggling and has been struggling all year and now his defense is even worse because he is not hitting. He has nothing to hide behind now. Abrew is just Abrew.

According to Rojas' twitter

It’s looking like Haren will start tonight

Yea I keep hearing Roger Lodge

saying Haren gets the start today…I’m pumped…

let’s see what this guy brings to the mound.

You listen to Roger Lodge?

I’m sorry.

No kidding.

I tried listening to him because at least it was the most “Angel” oriented morning show for sports between 570 and 710, but I honestly rather listen to Vic the Brick say “Feeeeeeeeeelin you!” 737182754 times in a row than Lodge.

And sadly, even if Vic only knows about the Lakers and nothing else in sports, he still knows more than Lodge.

In fact, rumor has it the Ridin’ Dirty host knows more about sports :/

Morning radio sports that talk about Angels Baseball

here in Vegas…..ZERO. So I enjoy listening to it online. There’s an app for that..lol

You mean he does something other than 714-Tickets spots?
Haren last pitched July 21st and Saunders was scheduled to go against Lackey on Tuesday

I’d rather see Haren go up against Benedict.

No hell no

we are throwing our ace at Benedict!

Haven't you heard?

We have two aces now. :D

Haren isn't an ace???

I initially thought Pineiro would get bumped to Tuesday night. Me likey Weav vs Mr Ed just fine.

i second bourjos.

bat him 9th, behind the new guy. put him in lf and move him to cf in 2011.

I'm starting to feel as if Bourjos is needed more now not only for defense...

but for the Angels to be able to play Sothball again. Stealing bases, going first to third, bunting, and taking extra bases. Just seems like we need to have speed at 1, 2 and 9 to get it done like we used to.

Aybar, Mice Tits, and Bourjos could potentially be that trio, especially if Aybar and Bourjos learned to take a walk And even more especially if Aybar learned to steal a base.

I feel this way too

I liked watching the Angels play above average defense and use base hits/aggressive baserunning to get guys around the bases. No, they didn’t take many walks, but it was fun to watch.

Now they don’t take walks AND they’re slower than molasses AND they’re poor baserunners AND they can’t play defense, especially in the outfield. It’s painful to watch, since those things are Scioscia’s bread and butter.

and can someone tell Torii
to stop stealing bases. He’s been caught 10 times while stealing 7. That’s pretty bad. The only way to put Bourjos in the lineup is to maybe bench Rivera or Abreu. I’m still not comfortable playing Bourjos everyday this year simply because the entire offense seems to be from our aging OF/DH with Mike Napoli. If Kendry was healthy and Wood could actually hit, then Bourjos might take LF.

Seriously

His little “let me take off two seconds before the pitcher throws the ball because that’s the only way I’m stealing a base” routine was cute at first (when it worked out) and now irritates me, since it’s succesful maybe one time out of five. Torii – you’ve lost a step. Pick your spots better.

Ok Ninja, time for another stealth move, get Soria from KC.
believe it or not Fuentes is doing alright(what the hell did i juss say???)

is it possible to use those words in a sentence?

Well, there IS still a suspiciously vacant spot on the 40-man roster

First time in, well, a very long time the Angels FO has held a 40-man spot open. Callaspo filled O’Sullivan’s slot and Dan “The Baron” Haren fills Saunders slot. McAnulty’s former slot is still open.

we gonna get Donnelly
or Pujols is nice too

Looking for a power bat

Wouldn’t mind getting Garrett Jones.

Why?

He’s not very good. A downgrade on Napoli’s offense. No better than Rivera, Matsui, or Abreu, and like them a terrible fielder.

I’m all for a trade that can help us, but shouldn’t we try to get players who are better than what we’re already using?

Did anyone else find it very suspicious that Napoli didn't start last night?

Is there a deal in the works?

Not really

Napoli sitting on the bench is a pretty common thing for Mike Scioscia. Might have just wanted to give him a day off, and get Howie in the lineup along with our other singles hitting infielders. Napoli was getting ready to PH if the 9th inning had gone any further.

I doubt it

We don’t have anyone to fill the 1B spot (Frandsen? lol). Napoli has been playing for 8-straight games, and subbed in the most recent game he didn’t start.

He may get traded if we trade him for a 1B man, but it wouldn’t make any sense to trade a power bat for a power bat.

No.

But I did find it weird that Howie started at 1B.

If there was a deal

It would have happened already. I doubt they would have held Napoli out without a deal being finalized (or so close to being finalized that it was a guarantee he’d be gone by now).

Here are some of the players rumored to be traded soon:

Cantu OPS+ = 90
Derek Lee 89
Ty Wigginton 106
Garret Jones 104

Not any improvement on what we have:
Rivera 95
Abreu 101
Matsui 99
Napoli 116

If these are big bats, just say no. If we’re going to trade, it better be for somebody who is actually good. Like the Haren trade. Not like the Callaspo trade.

^ What he said! ^
Tony Reagins has just sealed his fate

If Haren turns into Kazmir or another Saunders, he will end up unemployed. Oh and the reason Saunders was crying is because he is moving from OC to Phoenix in the middle of summer.
The Angels are still along way from competing with Texas. The Angels have two worthless outfielders, a we have no hr threat in the infield. (Naps belongs behind the plate). And Haren is far from a lock except for his large salary. Time will tell with him.

if it doesnt work out......

its not for a lack of trying though.

You are a ray of light...
Hokie Joe lives in AZ methinks.
Red suits him well

Haren's going for the "Terrorist Look", I see.

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