He screwed up, but then he did the right thing. Knowing the test would show positive for cocaine, he went Ranger management and MLB to tell them of his usage.
He didn’t try to blame someone else.
He didn’t try to explain it away.
He has passed every test since.
Given the way he handled it, he has earned redemption. Whatever his demons, he appears to be facing them. I respect the guy for his honesty.
condoning that the world is unfair to you by making it unfair and unyielding to others? That’s a bit like saying that since you were hit as a kid, your own kids should get hit as well.
I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t keep his job, I’m just saying that your logic is a bit extreme.
My job. They give no chances. One and done, son. No room for testing the party favors. No way would you tell my boss, and then get away with it.
At 57 he should know right from wrong. He is in charge of millions of dollars worth of company property, and he goes and “try’s” something for the first time. Him being the one man that oversees a employee that had past(continuing?) drug & alcohol problems.
He’s not a player. He is the manager of the team. The Leader. How is he supposed to lead in the Bud Selig way … never mind.
There are some types of employement where I can understand a "one and done" policy...
…where public safety may be severly impacted, or may result in great financial harm or distress to the employer (I don’t know if that applies to your type of employment or not). If that’s not the case, then I believe your employer’s policies are a bit too harsh.
I’d assume the purpose of an employer’s anti-drug policies are;
1) Protect the company.
2) Prevent alcohol/drug use/abuse.
It seems to me part of the “prevention” would be to encourage employees that screw up to come forward as Washington did and deal directly with thier problem(s). If they screw up again, or if they’re caught in the act, then adios.
I would agree with eyespy that you’d expect a bit more from;
1) The team’s de facto leader.
2) A guy that’s 57 years old. Shouldn’t he have this desire out of his system by now??
Regardless, I still think he earned a second chance with the way he handled the situation.
He’s alos earned a huge spotlight for the balance of his managerial career. If he falters again, I suspect he will be fired, never to manage in MLB again.
If somebody else wants to give him a second chance, I have no problem with that. But, in my mind, this is the kind of thing that requires a LOT of mistakes on his part, not just one. A lot of decision-making goes into something as serious as this, and he had multiple chances to NOT do what he was doing in the first palce, and passed them all up.
His role in his organization comes with more responsibilities than lessor roles. He is, essentially, the captain of a $70 million annual investment at sea. Anybody that sets aside that much responsibility, makes that many errors in judgement to end up doing what he did, and subjects a $70 million dollar enterprise to that much risk, is gone.
I don’t wish him harm. I hope things work out for him, even if elsewhere. But now it is my judgement at stake and my judgement says that I need to do better in that role. And Washington just made the decision for me.
I think there’s a difference between someone who’s been caught using cocaine and a “coke head”. Not everyone who drinks beer is a drunk, so until we know more I think it’s not really fair to call him a “coke head”.
Certainly, it’s possible that he’s abused cocaine (and personally I’d guess it’s likely), but to put “coke head” in the subject is a bit out of line, imo.
I can envision that Wash heard that he had a random drug test about to take place. And then, using that incredibly perfect timing he has show his whole managerial career for pitcher management, he slowly walked out to his car with his hands in his back pockets and broke out his kit.
about what kind of judgement a 57 year old who “tries” coke for the “first time” has. I think the man should be given another chance as this was the “first time” he was caught. But the Rangers organization had better be looking at him with the stink-eye cause this guy’s judgement is flawed.
1) Why are they drug-testing managers? 2) Doing lines at 57??? Awesome!
So, officially, the 57-year-old manager of the Texas Rangers is a bigger cokehead than the 41-year-old editor of the country’s premier libertarian (i.e., free the drugs!) magazine. That’s some kind of great.
Why do they drug test managers? Is the coke going to give Washington a faster reaction time when he decides to pull a pitcher? Is it going to give him some extra “pep” in his step as he walks out to the mound? If that’s the case, then technically he’s helping speed up the game (no pun intended), which is what MLB wants, right?
They test the rest to make sure there are no bad influence's
Major league managers, coaches and other clubhouse personnel have been subject to drug testing since 2008, when MLB adopted the measure as one of George Mitchell’s recommendations as part of his report regarding steroid and drug use in baseball. MLB mandates that any non-playing personnel who either fail a test or admit to drug use be subject to counseling and a substance-abuse program developed by a doctor approved by baseball.
1. KEEP the clubhouse free of any element of drug subculture
2. KEEP the manager free from getting so addicted he throws a game for a loan from a bookie to help him get some more sniffy-sniffy.
3. KEEP the beer sponsors happy with their legal monopoly
Before I get run out of town on a rail. but this is cracked up. I heard about this today from a white lady while I was getting ice with my cola at Krystals. Let me be blunt, this totally blows for Rangers fans.
Ron Washington to Josh Hamilton:
“I learned it by watching you!!”
Higz - March 17, 2010
First comes coke,
then cums hot model wife,
then baby,
and then Homerun derby.
DAD OF VLAD - March 17, 2010
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...
… Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
ryanfea - March 17, 2010
What?
That explains why he looks like a model
DAD OF VLAD - March 17, 2010
I am sure it was a result of all the heavy criticism he received from Lone Star Ball last
season for his poor managing.
44FAN - March 17, 2010
I've heard he is a players manager
I just hadn’t heard he was a playa’s manager.
You see what I did there?
Funny?
Not even a little?……I give up.
SalmonStream - March 17, 2010
I almost lol'd.
opiejeanne - March 17, 2010
I feel no pity for LSB after their asinine Torii Hunter thread.
They had this coming.
Commander_Nate - March 17, 2010
Not for LSB
But at least Washington manned up and notified MLB and Rangers front office before the hot potato came out.
red floyd - March 17, 2010
+1
He screwed up, but then he did the right thing. Knowing the test would show positive for cocaine, he went Ranger management and MLB to tell them of his usage.
He didn’t try to blame someone else.
He didn’t try to explain it away.
He has passed every test since.
Given the way he handled it, he has earned redemption. Whatever his demons, he appears to be facing them. I respect the guy for his honesty.
sothball - March 17, 2010
The black tiger woods
DAD OF VLAD - March 17, 2010
It's against the rules, he shouldn't have had to notify nothing
if I fail a drug test
1) I loose my job
2) I get investigated, maybe(most likely) charges are taken against me
3) I am screwed
eyespy - March 17, 2010
Yeah. I am with you.
Get busted using cocaine but step forward and man up, then Ok…
…set him up with some counseling…
…make sure that he and his family are situated properly…
…close out all remaining financial obligations…
…and fire him.
Stirrups - March 17, 2010
Ok, then, so you are ...
condoning that the world is unfair to you by making it unfair and unyielding to others? That’s a bit like saying that since you were hit as a kid, your own kids should get hit as well.
I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t keep his job, I’m just saying that your logic is a bit extreme.
LazorkoRules - March 18, 2010
All depends on what type of job you have
My job. They give no chances. One and done, son. No room for testing the party favors. No way would you tell my boss, and then get away with it.
At 57 he should know right from wrong. He is in charge of millions of dollars worth of company property, and he goes and “try’s” something for the first time. Him being the one man that oversees a employee that had past(continuing?) drug & alcohol problems.
He’s not a player. He is the manager of the team. The Leader. How is he supposed to lead in the Bud Selig way … never mind.
eyespy - March 18, 2010
There are some types of employement where I can understand a "one and done" policy...
…where public safety may be severly impacted, or may result in great financial harm or distress to the employer (I don’t know if that applies to your type of employment or not). If that’s not the case, then I believe your employer’s policies are a bit too harsh.
I’d assume the purpose of an employer’s anti-drug policies are;
1) Protect the company.
2) Prevent alcohol/drug use/abuse.
It seems to me part of the “prevention” would be to encourage employees that screw up to come forward as Washington did and deal directly with thier problem(s). If they screw up again, or if they’re caught in the act, then adios.
sothball - March 18, 2010
The other thing to consider is that they gave Hamilton a "second chance".
Be kind of hypocritical of the Rangers to axe Washington for the same offense.
red floyd - March 18, 2010
Sorta.
I would agree with eyespy that you’d expect a bit more from;
1) The team’s de facto leader.
2) A guy that’s 57 years old. Shouldn’t he have this desire out of his system by now??
Regardless, I still think he earned a second chance with the way he handled the situation.
He’s alos earned a huge spotlight for the balance of his managerial career. If he falters again, I suspect he will be fired, never to manage in MLB again.
sothball - March 18, 2010
He's not the "one man" that oversees Hamilton
Johnny Narron is around for that.
Inkara1 - March 18, 2010
Who said life is fair? Did I miss the memo?
If somebody else wants to give him a second chance, I have no problem with that. But, in my mind, this is the kind of thing that requires a LOT of mistakes on his part, not just one. A lot of decision-making goes into something as serious as this, and he had multiple chances to NOT do what he was doing in the first palce, and passed them all up.
His role in his organization comes with more responsibilities than lessor roles. He is, essentially, the captain of a $70 million annual investment at sea. Anybody that sets aside that much responsibility, makes that many errors in judgement to end up doing what he did, and subjects a $70 million dollar enterprise to that much risk, is gone.
I don’t wish him harm. I hope things work out for him, even if elsewhere. But now it is my judgement at stake and my judgement says that I need to do better in that role. And Washington just made the decision for me.
Stirrups - March 19, 2010
You know the line............
XYZ123 - March 17, 2010
First Hamilton.
Then Washington. Who’s next? Benjamin Franklin?
TheQuestforMerlin - March 17, 2010
eyespy - March 17, 2010
Cocaine? He must have that it was 1980
It’s like yo mang….
Commander_Nate - March 17, 2010
*thought
Sorry, I think my body is naturally producing alcohol because it knows what day it is and what’s going to happen to it after work…
Commander_Nate - March 17, 2010
It sure does seem that way to me
And yell yer girl to stop paging me
Higz - March 17, 2010
jumping to conclusions
I think there’s a difference between someone who’s been caught using cocaine and a “coke head”. Not everyone who drinks beer is a drunk, so until we know more I think it’s not really fair to call him a “coke head”.
Certainly, it’s possible that he’s abused cocaine (and personally I’d guess it’s likely), but to put “coke head” in the subject is a bit out of line, imo.
yeswecan - March 17, 2010
obviously doing it once does not make you a coke head.
Although I do not agree the headline is out of line. Not everything has to be literal imo.
hauldog - March 17, 2010
everything is literal when YESWECAN is involved
figuratively speaking…
Rev Halofan - March 17, 2010
I find it VERY hard to believe
that a 57 year old man just tried coke for the first time.
hauldog - March 17, 2010
Totally plausible.
I can envision that Wash heard that he had a random drug test about to take place. And then, using that incredibly perfect timing he has show his whole managerial career for pitcher management, he slowly walked out to his car with his hands in his back pockets and broke out his kit.
Stirrups - March 17, 2010
I would also have to wonder
about what kind of judgement a 57 year old who “tries” coke for the “first time” has. I think the man should be given another chance as this was the “first time” he was caught. But the Rangers organization had better be looking at him with the stink-eye cause this guy’s judgement is flawed.
rmhalofan - March 18, 2010
I prefer Pepsi over Coke.
Downing Rules - March 17, 2010
you're insane
ryanfea - March 18, 2010
Blind Snort Test
DAD OF VLAD - March 18, 2010
1) Why are they drug-testing managers? 2) Doing lines at 57??? Awesome!
So, officially, the 57-year-old manager of the Texas Rangers is a bigger cokehead than the 41-year-old editor of the country’s premier libertarian (i.e., free the drugs!) magazine. That’s some kind of great.
mattwelch - March 17, 2010
good point
Why do they drug test managers? Is the coke going to give Washington a faster reaction time when he decides to pull a pitcher? Is it going to give him some extra “pep” in his step as he walks out to the mound? If that’s the case, then technically he’s helping speed up the game (no pun intended), which is what MLB wants, right?
yeswecan - March 17, 2010
They test the rest to make sure there are no bad influence's
eyespy - March 17, 2010
Wow
I think of the poor batboys and girls who get drug-tested before they even reach the age of getting drug-tested for a real job.
yeswecan - March 17, 2010
don't they have to be of a minimum age
because they are around alcohol?
eyespy - March 17, 2010
Most of the ones I've seen were under 21.
opiejeanne - March 17, 2010
no
You can work in a restaurant that serves alcohol and be underage. You just can’t serve alcohol to anyone.
yeswecan - March 17, 2010
No bad influences?
You mean like Mickey Hatcher?
Match Day 5 - March 17, 2010
that's just wrong
Mickey proved last season that he knows where his place on the team is. That’s right … right behind Bobby, listening like the rest of the team.
eyespy - March 18, 2010
THE REASON THEY DRUG TEST THE MANAGERS
1. KEEP the clubhouse free of any element of drug subculture
2. KEEP the manager free from getting so addicted he throws a game for a loan from a bookie to help him get some more sniffy-sniffy.
3. KEEP the beer sponsors happy with their legal monopoly
Rev Halofan - March 17, 2010
3. KEEP the beer sponsors happy with their legal monopoly
But you know if they served cocaine at angel stadium, arte would make sure we would have the lowest priced and BEST coke available.
clover_black - March 17, 2010
He'd probably put Abreu, Izturis and Rivera in charge of that during the winter...
Commander_Nate - March 17, 2010
Rec'd
We need more drug threads
Higz - March 17, 2010
Maybe I should just pipe down
Before I get run out of town on a rail. but this is cracked up. I heard about this today from a white lady while I was getting ice with my cola at Krystals. Let me be blunt, this totally blows for Rangers fans.
Slasher52 - March 17, 2010
hey-o yay-o!
Higz - March 17, 2010
Screw the Rangers
they can go blow themselves
princeton11loveshalos - March 17, 2010
Vlad has to be wondering WTF he got himself into now.
Commander_Nate - March 17, 2010
or he's wondering if the Angels are just prudes
yeswecan - March 17, 2010
How the hell stupid is Ron Washington?
Monkeyspanked - March 17, 2010
Enough to have kevin Milwood
Being the starting day pitcher
DAD OF VLAD - March 17, 2010
If I didn't already know I'd say he must be snortin' something!
Monkeyspanked - March 18, 2010
Schadenfreude
Look it up you hicks.
Teixeira Who? - March 17, 2010
Shade? And fraud? For Texans that would be Kenny-boy Lay hoisting a mai tai with cocktail umbrellas.
Stirrups - March 17, 2010
Ranger's officials became concerned when they saw this car in the team parking lot
XYZ123 - March 18, 2010
Don Ron with the Magic Wand
Pimping the Rangers aint easy
DAD OF VLAD - March 18, 2010
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