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Still No Beltre, Relievers Are Too Expensive. Halolinks.

Beltre weighs options while Angels wait - Yahoo! Sports

Now that they’ve composed themselves since the Crawford debacle, the Los Angeles Angels are in the hunt. They have the greatest need, should be feeling the most pressure to sign someone for the middle of their order and their defense, and have the money. The club has discussed with Beltre’s agent, Scott Boras, the basic framework of a contract, according to sources, but not much more than that.

I guess there's no real hurry for the Angels to sign Beltre, that is, until another "mystery team" swoops in a nabs him.  But which team, other than the Angels are; 1) interested; 2) have the cash; 3) have the need?

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Relievers Are Not Worth Multi-Year Deals - FanGraphs Baseball
As a group, teams have paid for premium production and instead received the same level of performance that they could have expected if they had signed minor league free agents. The evidence couldn’t be any stronger: signing guys like Guerrier and Crain to three year deals is just throwing money away. It’s not that they’re bad pitchers; it’s that relief pitchers are so prone to huge swings in performance that trying to project the long term future of any of these guys is simply folly.

I've always thought that teams could build a good bullpen for a relatively cheap cost.  Something around $8-$10M for 6 relievers.  This is where I think smart teams save on payroll; bullpens, 4th outfielders, infield utility, and 5th starters.  After allocating most of their payroll to the 9 starters (8 position players and DH), and four starting pitchers, a team shouldn't devote more than $15-$18M on the rest of their 25-man roster.  Am I wrong?

The Best Baseball Books Of 2010 - BaseballAmerica
We could almost have compiled a top 10 out of nothing but biographies. But that wouldn't be as much fun, so Mays and Cronin, both strong works, will have to settle for near-miss status. Unique releases from Josh Wilker and pitcher-turned-penman Dirk Hayhurst give us some variety. We even have that rare breed, the realistic baseball novel, courtesy of Jeff Gillenkirk.

Some people use the off-season to catch up on their reading.  Here's a list to help figure out what to read.  By the way, I've read both the Wilker and Hayhurst books and I found both to be very good.  At the moment I'm just getting started on Crazy '08 by Cait Murphy after spending the past couple weeks reading non-baseball books Outliers and The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell and dot.com by John Cassidy (also all very good).

Metrodome memories - Peter Schmuck - baltimoresun.com
The situation did bring back some memories, however, since I was in the Metrodome for the only time the roof failed while there was an event taking place underneath it. That was on April 26, 1986, when a severe windshear tore the roof above the bleachers in right center field and dumped rainwater into the stands during the ninth inning of a game between the Twins and California Angels.

The roof ended up caving in on the Angels in Anaheim that year also.

December 17 - BR Bullpen
1928 - National League President John Heydler's designated hitter idea gets the backing of John McGraw, but the American League is against it.
1953 - In a tax-avoidance scheme, the New York Yankees sell Yankee Stadium and Kansas City properties for $6.5 million in a deal with Johnson Corp and the Knights of Columbus, who immediately lease the property back to the Yanks.
1964 - The Yankees fire long-time television and radio voice Mel Allen. This well-known broadcaster popularized the 'going, going, gone' home run call and often said 'how about that' to describe happenings on the ball field.
Happy b-day:
1886 - Jack McAdams, pitcher (d. 1937)  I don't know who this guy is, but he reminds me of her.
1968 - Curtis Pride, outfielder

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Comments

It's not over yet.

With that said, all the Angels homers should be happy, Right? But my gut tells me that this is a sign of the new times from our owner Arte. I believe that the majority of his decisions to not spend what it takes to get the players he wants has more to do with the economy and the fact that he doesn’t want to priceout his fanbase. All fine with me so long as he brings up our best prospects and lets them play. This would give the fans some hope and promise for the future of the organization.

you are missing the fact that

Arte tried to sign Crawford to that ridiculous contract, so your idea that he doesn’t want to spend what it takes to get the payers he wants doesn’t really ring true. I mean, if Crawford wanted to be an Angel he would be, and Arte would’ve invested $140m into him.

and I’m missing something, why should all the Angels homers be happy? because of 2 lefty BP arms and the resigning of Mathis?

everyone can speculate what the Angels offered to the players they went after

but the bottom line is that the Angels have struck out when it comes to getting the big free agents they have coveted.

But that wasn't your argument.

Your argument was that we are entering an era of austerity. Given what was offered to Crawford, that’s simply not the case.

What we’ve entered is a period of inexperienced and undynamic leadership.

So by your "logic"...

…the Yankees failed to offer enough money to Cliff Lee, and therefore struck out.

Except they offered MORE money than did the Phillies. So did the Rangers. Lee wanted to play in Philadelphia, and he didn’t want to play in NY or Arlington.

Crawford was given apparently identical offers by the Red Sox and Angels and decided he would prefer to play in Boston. Konerko in 2006 was offered more money by the Angels (and even more money by the Orioles) but he elected to return to the White Sox. Sometimes, players take offers for reasons which aren’t entirely mercenary.

Your theory has no legs. Back to the Hundred Acre Wood with you, Eeyore.

I would say

by his logic the Yankees offered a large sum of money to Lee, he chose to go to another team, therefore the Yankees are tightening their belts due to the economy. whaaaa?

look at the vast majority of free agents the Yanks have gone after in recent years

and you will find that they almost always get their man. Same cannot be said for the Angels of recent years.

you are 100% correct

but did I say that that wasn’t the case? no. I said that Arte was willing to spend, which was contrary to your original post.

If I may

I think Dono’s point is that we have no recent concrete evidence of Arte’s willingness to spend, since he hasn’t actually landed a big fish in several seasons. Lots of talk, no results.

I think this is a valid point, but it does not inexorably point to any one conclusion. My read on the situation is that Arte is willing to increase payroll significantly in order to land the right player, but he’s not going to pay one cent more than they are worth. That’s his right, and it’s okay by me, but I wish that he’d stop saying that he’s willing to spend “whatever it takes” when all the recent evidence is decidedly to the contrary.

okay boys. please tell me in the last two seasons what big free agent

the Angels have gone after and landed?

That's not the point

Your theory is that the Angels are in an austerity program because they haven’t signed a marquee free agent this year.

In no way have you proven your theory. Find a way to do so and you can have a discussion. Until then, you’re just another whiner.

same can be read into your reply my friend.

Whiner? Whatever you say. I only offer an opinion. I do not intend to come off as “all seeing all knowing baseball guru” nor someone who intentionally insults other posters with my “I’m smarter than you baseball facts” . Just a Angels fan bro. A little sarcasm, yes. Arrogance, never.

The very definition of "feckless"

If you’re unwilling or unable to defend your statements, you’re probably in the wrong venue.

Dono is long known

as a disingenuoous coward around here whose only real value is a drunken wit in game threads when one or the other team is getting slaughtered.

Disingenuous Coward???

and here it is I thought that we are all Angels fans wanting the same thing. A successful Halos team to win the World Series every season if they could. Regardless of how all of my fellow passionate HH posters feel we need to get there, I find it interesting that infighting and name calling is the norm here amongst people who all like the Angels.

I would hope that if I ever had the pleasure of running into any HH poster at a game, we could have a beer and enjoy the game without arguing over who is right rather than root for the Angels.

He just wanted to use the word "disingenuous" today

How full of candor he is!

ha ha

just used it over at the Huffington Post too, Dono is a good warm up.

What do you do for them?

Just freelance stuff or is it related to your art mag?

You're a liberal Rev?
You can buy me a diet coke at the stadium any time Dono

Your thirteenth silver bullet is on me!

that would be a disingenuous offer

because you are projectingassuming that I drink coors light.

I was implying that you drank water

try a Coors Light and tell me I am wrong here

how many times do I have to say it

I don’t drink coors light

not even when the bottle

says EVIAN?

I prefer Fiji or locally bottle Niagra water
NIAGRA FALLS!!

Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch. . . .oh, sorry.

Why you! I oughtta moitalize you!
REV!!

May I remind you that the stadium is a Pepsi account

All blogs are the same way

Go look at PSA, LSB or anywhere else and you’ll see it.

Truth is, I mainly come here to feel better about myself.

I come here to be feckful
Then don't

Write something and then, when it’s disproven, claim that you meant to write completely different words instead of the words that you actually did write.

I never agree with Dono

But I had to rec his comment. It may be the most insightful thing I have read this offseason. My goal for today — not to make any negative or snarky comments to anyone.

Don't waste your time
like Turk said

that wasn’t your original argument. you were saying Arte is saving his money due to the economy, which simply isn’t the case AT ALL. he tried to spend $140m on Crawford (not speculated, confirmed by Reagins). so your point about the economy, ticket prices, etc. just does not have any truth to it.

that is what we all responded to. trying to steer the argument in another direction as if your point the whole time was that they keep striking out on FAs is not going to change the fact that your original point is unfounded.

That's an critique of execution, not budget.

The Angels opened 2010 with the eighth largest payroll in the game at $105M, and took on $10M more before the season was done, pushing them to the seventh highest payroll in the game.

One can critique front office strategy. One can critique the execution of that strategy. But it’s silly to critique the owner’s willingness to spend, given that the Angels’ budget was double that of the two teams that outpaced us in the AL West last season.

Im going to have to agree

Its hard to find actual statistics on things like free agency near misses, or complete failures so I dont expect Dono to produce anything but purely anecdotal evidence.

From anyone closely following the Angels they can tell you without fail that this front office tried and failed to sign the elite Free Agens, get Vlad big bat, and just generally fail horribly at anything to do with the FA market.

Can I go to baseball reference and post you a Angel FO Free Agent Conversion %, no, so stop asking for things that dont exist. As baseball fans anecdotal stories are just as good as OBP.

I think we all agree with that

but that wasn’t the point we were arguing with him since that wasn’t even close to the original point he was making.

but yeah, this FO sucks at getting the big time free agents it goes after.

No He Wasn't

Crawford was offered way substantially less by the Angels and it
was reported that the Angels were like 45 minutes late to the
meeting. Fact is the offer was way too low for even Crawford to
consider given that the top teams were offering him way more
monies and longer contracts. The Angels went thru the motions
to make it seem they tried to get Crawford but, everything points
to the opposite including being late to the meeting like 45 minutes
way to late. That tells you they were not really going after Crawford.

I would argue this

but I see others have already done so for me.

so lemme just say, YAWN

Went thru the motions and nothing else!

All the Angels did was go thru the motions and nothing else! They
were not serious about the offer because it was too far and too low
to be even competitive! It had no chance of being accepted by Carl
Crawford by any stretch of imagination. That is fine but, it is dishonest
to say they went after Crawford. The fact is they did not! Although, the
Angels made it appear they did! Of course, it did not cost the Angels
a penny did it?

Arte tells Boras to Suck It!

Wouldn’t it be great if Choakland was the only offer Boras could get for Beltre? Thanks for the memories, Scotty!

I know, cutting off our new 3rd baseman to ashuage our egos, probably not a good idea.
If we do throw him Tori money, I hope he doesn’t revert to M’s-Beltre.

uh

He was pretty good with the M’s…

if he went to Oakland

we’d be screwed. last season their pitching was better than ours, so if they added Beltre to the group of other guys they’ve already added, well then they would have improved much more than the Halos have. not to mention we finished behind them last season, and that was without Beltre, DeJesus, Willingham and Matsui.

Why would willfully hobbling our favorite baseball team assuage our egos?

Because we’re so invested in Arte’s brittle pride that we’d prefer him to icily tiptoe around the sport’s premier player agent like an abused spouse forever recalling the last blow?

If Arte has either reservations or prohibitions in dealing with Boras, it can only hurt the team in the long run. This isn’t about an individual owner saving face. Boras is a fact of the game — and GMs need to play the game, or Boras will play it for them.

No Beltre

Just preparing myself for when we whif & fail to sign him! Hope Arte cancels his dugout suite!

Damn

you are a good writer (among others here)

Thanks, dad.

With a little more gray in my beard and a good puffy chair, maybe I’ll direct it to something more than rushed emails, fanposts, and tweets one day. ; )

When you sober up

You’ll wince when you read your post.

There is far more at work here than your petty dislike for Scott Boras.

Boras = Satan!

My dislike for Boras is much more than petty.

Boras = agent

If he’s not doing everything he can to get his clients the most money possible then he’s not doing his job.

i wish Boras represented bloggers

i would want him his as my agent

Exactly. The MLBN guys were joking about that the day after Werth got his deal
I'm with you Epic Dean...

I have respect for anyone that is the best of their industry….

I just hate that he reps Kendry and Weaver :-/

That is His Job

If Boras was such a bad agent then, he would have been out of
business a long time ago! The fact is he is the best out there
so that, players go to him knowing that although, they pay him
top dollar——they get rewarded with big, fat juicy contracts just
the same. Ask Manny Ramirez for instance, he still got like
$50 million from the Dodgers for 2 years despite, being injured
for a long time!

That is an absolutely misguided emotion
Boras = Satan!
My dislike for Boras is much more than petty.

Or a fundamental misunderstanding of what Boras does and his role in the contract process.

Either way, your dislike is completely off base. If you don’t like him because he took your parking space at Ralphs, that is completely different. Disliking him because he’s at the top of his field is just weird.

Outside the lines

currently reading Keith Richard’s memoir. The Stones were never my favorite, but this is a fabulous read (little heavy for airplane use, however). The Mantle book looks good and I enjoyed her take on Koufax — but I am hesitant to get all Yankee’d out over the holidays — any reviews out there?

Max Byrd's "Grant" is a great literary historical novel

There’s an excellent cd version of it as well (I go through 20-30 books on cd a year—a lot of driving…). Thank God for great “readers” who can make the joy of listening to a good book that much better.

The difference b/t Grant's autobiography

(which is considered one of the best of the genre), is that Richards gets oral sex….a lot!

lol

that was a fun part of the book. Another difference is in style, of course; Byrd is an excellent under-rated writer of fictional narrative; Grant, a master of autobiography (with some help from Twain, I believe). Imagine writing your whole life’s story whilst dying from mouth cancer?! Unbelievable.

I read 6-10 books a quarter

at UC Irvine. I enjoy it, too, but I’m not sure how many I’d read once I graduate in June.

Currently reading (for fun/personal enlightenment) The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien. Pretty good for a Sux fan…

A friend got me

this book for my birthday

One of the best war/anti-war novels of all time

and a popular book assigned in American colleges.
When the narrator is looking for his friend in the muck—o my God—not for the faint of heart.

"a popular book assigned in American colleges"

I believe we know which way this book leans.

so far

I’d say it’s pretty neutral. I only have another 40 pages or so and it isn’t politically slanted either way. just because the author, as a young man, was almost a draft dodger and educated, doesn’t mean that the book is liberal (as you refer/imply to educational system being).

it’s not a damning condemnation of the war, it’s just confusing situation that none really understood.

Dude

O’Brien is a decorated veteran of the Vietnam war who ultimately served his country honorably and well. There is no “line” or agenda here—he merely tells his story and it is a beautiful tragic masterpiece.

I'd say

that I enjoyed reading Dispatches by Michael Herr more, but I know many others who would disagree.

if you’re into that kind of thing, you can check out my own wannabe, unedited story here.

I like them both

but my fave of the genre is All Quiet on the Western Front. Erich Maria Remarque is simply one of the great writers of the 20th century, though a man without a country once the Nazi’s kicked him out of Germany.

That is probably my favorite book out of all the ones I was ever assigned

Homage to Catalonia is up there as well.

Then there’s always Earth: The Book if you’re looking for something easy on the eyes.

Remarque wrote a series of books

about vets returning home after WWI that are totally different from “All Quiet” and brilliant. They all feature beautiful enigmatic women and the poor vets’ struggles to deal with them. Some of the best dialogue I’ve read. My favorite is a little known masterpiece called The Black Obelisk.

Interesting

Maybe I’ll give that a look if I ever venture out of the foreign policy, econ and DVD sections at Borders.

I asked my wife for Pat Barker's "Reconciliation" trilogy for Christmas

Americans should know more about WWI. The sentimental way in which we remember WWII just makes war seem so heroic and noble. From all accounts, war actually kind of sucks.

If there is a hell...

…it probably looks a lot like the trenches in World War I.

wilfred owen

favorite poet. amazing wwi anti-propagandist. wrote from the trenches.

You're not wrong.

No more than 10% of salary in the bullpen.
No more than 10% of salary on the bench.

GM Turk’s Axioms #1 & #2.

I read more than 10 books a *WEEK*.

Is there an option for “more than 100”?

ever read the world's best seller?
Dianetics?
athiest?
Is faith in the mercenary success of bible salesmen a precondition of faith in Christ and the Father?

Because that’s the argument you just made.

best-seller is worng

most read, most copies printed is correct, but many are given away, not sold.

So his argument is even weaker, really.

Humorless?
a subjective reply by both of us
I was gonna guess the Guinness Book of World Records
I was going to guess The Koran

or Buddha’s teachings.
Most of the people of the world are not Christians or Jewish, btw, DR

does it matter what one's religion is?

what matters is the character of the individual.

quality of character is greater

than preference of Star Wars over Star Trek (insert other fairy tales here as applies)

I like it better when Dono's a drunken wit

when he gets into deep philosophy, it strangely unsettles me.

A large number of those people can't read though,

but are told what the Koran “says”. This is what has led to the rise of so many fundamentalists. I would be willing to bet the same could be said of other religions as well.

you just described most of the States below the Mason-Dixon
Im no religious freak

but the Bible IS, in fact, the best selling book of all-time. It is also true that it is the most given away book by organizations and institutions that BOUGHT them. Though it is like water to some, it is not a natural resource and must be printed at a cost and SOLD.

The Koran and buddhist teachings are usually printed in formats that are local and non-commercial. Schools, libraries, mosques and the like print them out for people.

Lord of the Flies?
In the original Hebrew.
You're my hero

Can you come up and talk to my students sometime?
They don’t believe us when we tell them that people like reading books of all sorts.
I think they feel we are some sort of prehistoric creature doomed to live out our last days in total lameness

Evelyn Wood?

That’s pretty amazing that you could even find the time. It takes me an average of one week/one book (unless its REALLY good).

More than 3000+ books a year?

I have a couple pals who make a modest living as book reviewers (of some note), and they read perhaps three books a week.

How do you read more than one book a day, and what’s your profession, if I may ask?

I think Red is including comic books and graphic novels

lol

Could be a bookie, talking up his sportbooks.
Math fail

10 books a week is about 500/year

Reading

Girl With the Dragon Tattoo right now. only 200 pages in, and so far its been just setting the story, but the people I’ve talked to who have read it say it starts slow but gets really good. so I’m just ploughing through until the point where i can’t put it down. Bought all 3 books in the series, so I’m heavily invested at this point.

Wihalo, how’d you like the Gladwell books? I’ve read Tipping Point and Blink recently (I liked Blink a lot more than TP), but have been waiting for Outliers to come out in paperback.

I'm enjoying the "Girl' trilogy--moving on to the last one soon

I like reading about crazy women who kick ass
The Swedish film version of “Dragon” was pretty cool too

the entire Swedish take on the "Millennium" Trilogy

was very well done. All three books were fabulous.

I plan on watching the movie

just as soon as I’m done with the book

The girl has hairy armpits in the movie.
did you just ruin the ending for me?
Well, it ruined my fwapping session...

so yeah.

That's euro-babes and hippy chicks for ya bro

don’t knock it til you try it

The movie butchers the book
don't they all?
Well, not always

Bladerunner, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Fight Club, and the immortal “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” of course, to name a few.

well yeah

there are definitely outliers to that. but more often than not, the movie doesn’t do the book justice, which is understandable considering how much more a book can offer to the reader from a story standpoint.

I f’ing love Fight Club, book and movie.

Totally agree on both points

1. Fight Club is definitely the most popular fictional text with men ever written (and viewed). It’s quite a phenomenon.
2. Bad films from good books—cases in point: Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold and The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Some of us had been waiting eagerly for those films to come out, and both were huge disappointments.
Lovely Bones particularly sucked—dude needs to stick to Hobbits, methinks.

Hobbits... or horror...

Dead Alive = pure awesomeness.

Now there's a movie that needs to get made

Or “movies” I guess I should say. I read The Hobbit at like 12 or 13 in the form of an old, wrinkled, yellowed paperback that was part of a box set that my dad had owned since he was a kid. Read most of it on the way to and from Vegas that summer. Changed my life, dude.

Agreed.

Seems like there are plenty of setbacks with that movie. I wonder if its finally green-lighted?

it is

PJ has taken over the helms as director since Guillermo Del Toro backed out. there have been labor issues though in NZ last I heard, but I know the movie will be made. they just cast Cate Blanchett again in her role as that elvish queen (can’t remember her name), which is odd since she didn’t appear in The Hobbit book.

I'm pretty sure that got worked out

Link

Most entertainment folk in New Zealand were pissed off about the labor dispute as well because they thought it would basically scare away any big productions in the future.

read both books

and was eager to see both movies too. saw The Road, and meh. never saw Lovely Bones because I heard it sucked.

I think The Road suffered most from being TOO faithful to the book. Most people I know thought it was well made, but they just didn't want to watch.
Also, I love McCarthy. Blood Meridian is my favorite book. Ever.
Yep--agreed

The master of making violence something beautiful.
They’ve been working on a film project for awhile, I believe Ridley Scott. I could see Jeff Bridges as the Judge.

Jeff Bridges is awesome

he was on Kevin and Bean this morning and he just seems/sounds like he’s always stoned.

Ridley Scott is off. Last I read it was now the dude who did Little Children.

I’ve never been a fanboy type to say these sorts of things, but I do with Blood Meridian: DONT MAKE IT A MOVIE. It’s un-filmable and will only be a let down.

The Judge is tough…he’s an 8ft tall ablino haha. The best suggestion I’ve ever heard is John Malkovich, but I think he’s getting too old looking. Malkovich from 10 years ago would’ve been perfect.

never read the book

but what about Danial Day Lewis? that guy can seriously act.

his performance in Gangs of New York was just beautiful. and I heard he’s signed on to play Abe Lincoln, which just seems like a role he was born to play (just like DOV).

I'd be down with DDL. He'd have to gain some lb's though.
Good point

Maybe you could CGI him into a 7 foot bald guy

I refuse to watch the film version of the The Road

And I’m a huge Viggo Mortensen fan, but it was poorly executed, based on reviews I have read.

Blade Runner, while an awesomely great film, still varies from PKD's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

But I really think that’s due more to the nature of the medium than anything else.

Disagree

The film culls out a lot of peripheral material and hones in on the major plot and character elements. Besides, Noomi Rapace is hot.
(I do have fears that the American version will suck)

I felt like the chopping changed large parts of the story
Would love to hear details

but probably not here even with a “spoiler alert” ;) (maybe at an HH event?)
You raise a good point as well, though; it’s one thing to chop—filmmakers have to do that—but if the “chopping” changes meaning and our understanding of the essential parts of a text, then it is problematic and can ruin the story. Chopping out all of the Chief’s interior narration in Cuckoo’s Nest sucked, but the film was still a faithful and amazing adaptation.

I'm with you on this one

Subtitles and all (I usually HATE reading movies), I loved the way the movies were presented.

All three were very good.

Read ’em before they were the “hot” read.

Blink was the first Gladwell book I read

and to me, the best. Tipping Point and Outliers were interesting, but not as good. Maybe because I read them back-to-back.

have you read Freakanomics?

similar to Gladwell, but it doesn’t have those parts which seem a little agonizing to get through. at least, thats what I thought.

I have it, but haven't read it yet.

I’m switching things up a bit and getting into some historical baseball stuff.

understandable

gotta keep that baseball appetite quenched somehow

That is on my reading queue

I have only read bits and pieces up to this point and was highly intrigued, but it has to wait its place in line.

if you plan on buying a house soon

read it. otherwise, get to it when you can.

If you like Steigg Larsson and contempo-European detective/mystery fiction

I recommend two other authors in that genre basically who are excellent story-tellers:

1. Alan Furst: He’s American/English I believe but is a brilliant writer who focuses on the European theater in WWII and the espionage going on at the time. “The Polish Officer”

2. Henning Mankell: Another Swedish author with middle-aged detectives solving grizzly crimes. “The Return of the Dancing Master”

thanks for the suggestions

jeez, I’m going to need to write all these good suggestions down in a notebook or something to refer back to once I’m done with the Millenium trilogy.

No problem. All these people so popular now internationally

were all inspired by our great mid-20th-century masters: Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler.

Sweet. Just finished the 3rd book tonight so I'm looking for some stuff to read

Should be useful if I get a bunch of borders gift cards for xmas

Pfft

I read two books just yesterday in less than an hour. “Frog and Toad Are Friends” and “Don’t Bite Your Friends.”

Pop-up books are the bees knees.
neither of those is a pop-up, but I don't disagree with you!
Frog and Toad rock
Arte is willing to spend but none of the top free agents want to play here.

Why is that?

no ESPN coverage

few if any lucrative post-career endorsement possibilities

We need a guy like Bo Belinsky that wouldn't care about the endorsements.

Just wants to bang the Hollywood stars! Scarlett Johannson is single again. We need to make THAT a selling point to come to the Angels!

Napoli is probably

frothing at the mouth

makes you wonder why

guys like Torii came here as much as he loves the camera. If Arte indeed, knows these things, how can he ever expect to land a major free agent?

This isn't exactly accurate

Crawford did choose to play in Boston over Anaheim despite apparently identical offers. The other players who recently rejected our offers, however, were offered more by the Yankees. We offered Sabathia $140 million, and the Yankees gave him $161 million. We offered Teixeira $160 million, and the Yankees gave him $180 million. Same was true last year with Lackey and Figgins, although I would not consider them top free agents.

Hopefully, we make the best offer to Beltre. If we do, I have to assume he will take it. If we do not, I have no idea what Plan B might be.

Plan B (randon Wood)
He asked what the plan was, not the punishment.
Why? All the groupies flock to Mathis and Napoli
Since June, I read all 15 Jack Reacher books by Lee Child

And Term Limits and Transfer of Power by Vince Flynn. Plus All-stars of the Deadball Era (NL and AL)

Plus Guardians of Ga’Hoole books with my daughter…

Dresden Files by Jim Butcher are prob my favs though.
 
That’s my 2 cents that are worth less due to inflation and taxes. So I probably owe you guys now. Damn it.

Nice to talk about something other than the nothing that’s going on with the Angels FO.

What is Dresen Files about?
It's kind of Harry Potterish, but for adults

The guys a wizard that works in the normal world as a private eye.

Dresden files used to be a pretty cool TV show also.

I imagine the books are good.

Dresden and Angel talk together on one site = sweet!

Hope you all have happy holidays and a Feliz Navidad that doesnt involve Pedro at 3B instead of Beltre

10 books a year is about right.

Yesterday I finished Super Sad True Love Story. Despite the weird title, it’s a great sci-fi, near future dystopia book. The last 100 pages or so is some freaky shit.

anybody read any Kurt Vonnegut?

I’ve read many, and enjoyed all. my favorites though were The Sirens of Titan and Cat’s Cradle. I read a while ago that Leonardo DiCaprio was trying to make a Cat’s Cradle movie. I so hope this happens, I would love to see that crazy story on the big screen, and done right.

I've been hoping for a Cat's Cradle movie. I know Richard Kelly(Donny Darko, The Box) wrote a script for it and was attached at one point. That was a handful of years ago though, probably still in development hell.
Vonnegut is easlier my favorite author.

I’ve read everything he’s written (that I know of), and Cat’s Cradle is my favorite too.

My faves are

God Bless You Mr Rosewater, Slaughterhouse 5, and Breakfast of Champions

Player Piano ranks really high with me.

I think I’ve read this one the most times out of all the Vonnegut books. I guess I should amend my earlier statement, Player Piano is my favorite, with Cat’s Cradle a very close second.

But truthfully, rankings are pointless. I like them all.

Player Piano = Fantastic read
after I finish

O’Brien, I plan on finishing Cat’s Cradle. The only other one I read by him is SH5.

Been a while. Cat's Cradle is the Ice-9 book, right?

Vonnegut is a bit too… odd… for my tastes.

I do like PKD, though.

correct

Ice-9 is in that one

and yes, they are very odd

PKD!!

I’ve been reading and re-reading his books since 1964.

The next book I'm starting is Warlock by Oakley Hall. Anybody ever heard of it? Someone recommended it to me years ago, just got it off of Amazon.
never heard of it, but sounds interesting

I love Amazon. Until last week I would always go to Barnes & Noble, but after I spent $17 on The Dragon Tattoo paperback there, then saw that I could get the whole trilogy new for $25 on Amazon, I am converted for life.

Warlock was impossible to find, so that's mainly where the Amazon came into play. I love them all, to be honest.

I have Borders Rewards Plus and the Barnes and Nobles equivalent, so I use those to either buy from their brick and mortar’s or their websites. It’s cool because with buying a book a week, I get enough points to get about a free book every few weeks.

The best is Borders coupons. They send out one 33-40% off coupon every couple weeks, even more so during the holidays. If you have rewards programs you get another 5-10% off. Barnes and Nobles doesn’t give you crap, to be honest.

I should've just said "Buy 4 get 1". Disregard that poor excuse for a sentence above.

you really like your Westerns, eh?

If they're good, then hell yes. Unfortunately, those are few and far between.

I grew up reading my grandpa’s Louis L’Amour novels. Unfortunately as you grow older, you realize those are horrible books and have the same problems as most westerns do. McCarthy does them well. Another good example is the book True Grit(which I hear the new movie is closer based on than the John Wayne movie). When done right, they are right in my wheelhouse.

I've found myself lately

being much more in to Westerns (movies and TV). not sure why, but my wife even commented on this to me a couple days ago.

did you ever watch the HBO series Deadwood? I’ve been watching the dvds on netflix and can say its a damn good show.

Oh yes. Deadwood was appointment tv for me during it's run. I hated the way it ended(not story wise, but HBO's decision to cut the series out of the blue) and then fans were strung along for awhile about a couple 2 hour specials to wrap the show up.
I should say that's also what brought upon the Warlock recommendation. A writer for the local weekly here said it's right up the alley of Deadwood fans.
interesting
I've read Deadwood scripts before, just for that amazing dialogue. Not since Lyndon B. Johnson has the word "Cocksucker" been used to such great effect.
the dialogue is amazing

I can’t believe sometimes the sentences that Swerengen says. Ian McShane can seriously act.

It's poetry. The many scenes where Swerengen is left in his office/room to think over his next move are on par with the best of the classics.
very true

what was up with him keeping that indian head in a box and conversing with it? when I first learned what was in the box I was like WTF???

got a couple episodes left in season 2 before I have to let the wife get some dvds through our netflix before I can start season 3. something tells me the new Twilight movie isn’t going to be up to par with Deadwood though.

Haha...well, it's kind of funny how throughout the show, he is in his room mulling over what to do, out loud. All while either talking to the indian chief's head, or getting head from his favorite girl. Always chuckled at that.
good point

head is always involved. lol

Deadwood!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My favorite all-time show (I just got back)
Al Swerengen is one of the greatest villains of all time

The book "Deadwood"

is pretty good too—but the show was way better

the town of Deadwood

(in S.D) on the other hand is a small, faintly skeevy place, unless you like small casinos, buildings that used to house whore houses, alcohol, and Harleys in which case it’s awesome. Been there a couple of times.

True

Went there this summer. Almost got into a fight with a ef-in tour bus driver for trying to run over my mother-in-law. Actually, maybe I should have thanked him lol

Borders Rewards FTW!!!

It should be called the “Super Best Friends Club” or something.

yeah, I'll still go to B&N/Borders

just because I love being amongst all those books and browsing around. I’ll check out that Borders program though, it sounds pretty good.

I hear ya. B&N is WAY more of a fun place to go and kill time. Borders I tend to not be in for more than 5 minutes, if I can help it. That's probably why they're so stingy with coupons.
you nailed it

Borders aren’t setup as well as B&N, which is why I’ve always gone to B&N. it just seemed more fun.

The Burdett books went a long way in helping me understand my wife and her family

none of them are from Bangkok, mind you. But he nails the life philosophy of the Thais. My wife prays for material items (car, jewelry, etc.) then goes to the Wat to give offerings when she gets them. Considering that Enlightenment is freedom from such wants and desires, it is a delicious paradox.

Adrian Beltre...

Couldn’t be bothered to add this as a fanshot… But I saw this on a Texas Rangers forum (bleach) and thought it ‘could’ (if it’s real) be interesting…

Adrian Beltre Facebook

7th Dec Just got done talking with The Angels. Really good offer! gonna decide later on.
21 hours ago Angels or Rangers? A`s are out of the option. Gonna have to discuss this with my family. Rangers sound good for right now but the Angels are good for the long run. Hard decision!

BOOM! AAAAAAAH!

WOW

did he really post this on his facebook?

Now that is the million dollar question...

Or should I say 64 – 90 million dollar one…

I won't believe that's real

unless Beltre makes a public statement acknowledging that those comments are his.

I say we friend him and all tell him to join the Angels, Halos Heaven social networking power
the Angels are good for the long run

apparently Beltre didn’t read that post by that douche DFA from the A’s blog. according to him, in 3 years the Angels will have no players, just a monkey in a stadium.

Which would still be more people than the A's have in their stadium.
Dunno how real the page is

because of the link to his Celtics fan page on the wall

what are the odds

Jesse78 is behind it?

Drat, foiled again by that pesky kid?
0% Chance that is the real Beltre
70% of the time, you are probably right, 100% of the time
"The doctors say he has a 50/50 chance of living"

“But there’s only a 10 percent chance of that.” (We miss you, Leslie…)

62% of all statistics are made up
That's interesting...

Make up improves women’s looks by 62% (half the time).

Greinke changed agents. Somewhat interesting thing to do at this time of year.
http://twitter.com/ed_price/status/15810077885734912
Here is Rosenthal on the LAA and Crawford

I posted this elsewhere but decided to put it here

They botched the negotiations for their No. 1 target, free-agent outfielder Carl Crawford, putting a deadline on their offer and allowing Crawford’s agents to leverage the Red Sox into awarding him a seven-year, $142 million contract.

Link

hasn't it come out

that CC’s agent set the deadline and that both teams had similar offers and he simply chose Boston? I thought that had been made clear.

I've never seen that

Everything I read said the Angels set the deadline

I could be very wrong.

I thought the same

until a poster on here corrected me, so I did some research and he was right. CC’s agents set the deadline.

I thought the Angels set the deadline too
Following some back and forth Tuesday and early Wednesday, Genske called Epstein Wednesday and notified them that the Angels had set an 11 p.m. deadline for negotiations and that it was time for teams to finalize their last, best offer.

That’s from the Sean McAdam article breaking down the process. Now with today’s LAT article, it’s hard to figure out who’s telling the truth (Moreno or the McAdam).

This is an issue I have with Rosenthal's argument...
hey botched the negotiations for their No. 1 target, free-agent outfielder Carl Crawford, putting a deadline on their offer and allowing Crawford’s agents to leverage the Red Sox into awarding him a seven-year, $142 million contract.

And

The Angels never should have allowed themselves to be cornered like this. They should have been more resolute at the winter meetings, telling Boras, "We’re aggressively pursuing Crawford. Here is our offer on Beltre. Take it, or we’re gone."

After saying we ‘botched’ by putting a deadline on one free agent (i.e. justifying half of his article) he says we should go ahead and put a ‘deadline’ or ultimatum on Beltre and Boras. So are we being smart or botching the Beltre discussions currently? Or will the answer be found in some reverse-argument when Beltre eventually signs a contract…

Most of these guys have never even negotiated a parking spot.
DOES ANYONE THINK WE HAVE A SHOT AT GETTING

1 of the top three 1st baseman FAs next year?…
Yankees are out.
With Pujols, Fielder and A.Gonzo our biggest competition would prob be the Mets, Cards, Redsox… any chance we land 1?
Plus if Kendry has a great year he would make an amazing trade chip.

I've been saying Pujos all off-season, which is why I don't mind not spending exorbitant amounts of money on CC or AB.

One of my best friends is from Kansas, still lives back there. He’s a diehard Cards fan and usually knows his stuff. He thinks it’s either Cards or Angels next year for Pujols, with advantage Angels.

Gonzo is signing an extension

Pujols is almost certainly going to re-sign with the Cards. If Albypants does not, it will be one of the biggest failures of any organization in baseball history considering Pujols will go down as one of the greatest right handed hitters of all time, if not THE best.

If Smacky McHomerun hits free agency he will command a 10/300 contract. The angels will offer 5/80, set a deadline and fail.

Fielder is the second coming of Mo Vaughn. Expect the Angels to overpay and overpay mightily then see him break his fat bone eating a bucket of lard and be useless.

Gonzo should tear that offer up

Crawford’s deal made it obsolete

Pujols will sign the first billion dollar contract in sports history
if Kendry has a great year

then we don’t need any of them.

A-Gon will sign an extension with Boston just as soon as the season starts (waiting for tax reasons)

Pujols will stay with STL

and do you really want Fielder? I don’t. I could see the Rangers trading for him if they are behind in the division before the deadline next season.

In my dream scario, Kendry DH's.
scenario, rather.
I preferred scario...
Apparently Scario is an Italian hamlet. So I guess my dream version of that town has Kendry living there.
We have the beginning of a film script methinks...

Kendry’s Big Day Out

It'll be like Captain Corelli's Mandolin meets Eat Pray Love meets A Good Year meets Bad News Bears 3.
thats a sure fire Oscar winner
And The Motorcycle Diaries!
No shot.

You can bet your ass on that and not worry about what you’re going to sit on.

Pujols

The Yankees are NEVER out. They can afford to pay him $30+ million/year; and they’d be happy to have him and Teixeira share 1B/DH duties. Most likely he stays with the Cardinals, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see either Boston (which will need to replace Ortiz) or the Mets (they need to do something, and Beltran will be coming off the books) throw a shitload of money at him.

The Yankees are NEVER out.
Reading "59 in '84"

about Old Hoss Radbourn.

Who was also apparently well-known for giving the “finger” when photographed.

Arte says we never made an official offer to Crawford and there is a "significant" offer out to Beltre

Link

so it is confirmed

they have made Beltre an offer.

the stuff about Crawford is confusing, but I’m at the point where I just don’t give a shit anymore what went down with him. he’s gone.

Guess that means there is no Angel Deadline
I'll take Arte at his word.

And I hope that “significant” means just that.

The "what we believe to be" part is not confidence inspiring
Boras is shopping it around no doubt

Hopefully it was high enough to scare other teams away.

The poll asks the question "How Much Do You Read in a Typical Year?"

Then it proceeds to mention only books. Is reading books the only type of legitimate reading? I’m an avid newspaper and magazine “reader.” I also read tons of on-line sites that cover local and national news and current events. I read court case decisions, sports articles, blogs, and yes an occasional book (especially ones dealing with politics). Does that make me an underachieving reader?

I’ve always wondered why BOOKS (especially silly romance novels and even other types of fiction) carry such “gravitas” in the realm of reading. I for one don’t waste my time with them.

Jerome Corsi – yes, John Grisham – no.

You're only grazing:)

Reading a book represents a significant investment of time, and books allow a much greater exploration of the subject at hand.

And they weigh more, so that explains the gravitas.

Well, there are good books and then there are ones you find at supermarket checkout lines.
You mean the National Enquirer doesn't qualify?
Compromise

Penthouse Letters

I never thought I'd be writing to you, but....
well since there was a link regarding books

I think thats where the poll question came from. no need to take offense to it. we get it, you can’t read. :-p

Probably not so much an underachieving reader

but rather somebody who takes things a little too literal.

Reading Greg Graffin's new book "Anarchy Evolution"...

and I’m about a quarter of the way through and really enjoying it. Much more entertaining than his thesis and includes a ton of early Bad Religion history.

I want to know if that book is good. I'm interested in anything that guy has to say.
Like I said, not done but would highly recommend based what I have read

Intriguing parallels are made between punk rock and naturalism that helps you understand more how the guy’s mind works.

I just finished that right after Thanksgiving

It’s a great read. He does a great job explaining how his twin careers in scientific academia and the music business shaped his naturalist worldview, which is shared by many people but is difficult to explain in some cases. The part about his trip to the Amazon after he graduated college and when Bad Religion was on hiatus was really good, I thought. Everyone’s got an eye-opening experience like that in their life where you’re forced to face reality and figure out what you want to do.

Is yours signed? Apparently he signed every copy of the first run. It sold out of all the Borders near me and I had to order it online. I was pleasantly surprised when I opened the book and found his signature.

It was...

I had pre-ordered it several months in advance.

“Shared by many people but difficult to explain”…I couldn’t have said that better myself.

Beltre's options are limited

None of the “big market” teams need a 3b.
Toronto ust signed encarnacion nd i doubt he’d want to play in toronto
indians- rebuilding
giants- already $120 mil payroll, unlikely
texas- they’d either have to trade young or convince him to pay dh/1b wth beltre at 3b
oakland- pulled their 5 yr/64 mill offer

beltre wants 5yr/75-90 mill, with angels budget approaching 139 mill that might be too much.

Just finished reading "The Graveyard Book" by Neil Gaiman

It is an excellent read for you and your kiddos.

Brandon Wood

Let’s be honest here, the whole team couldn’t hit last year. Brandon has that Ryan Braun or Troy Tulowitzki potential and upper management will regret pulling the plug on him early. If this guy switches up his batting stance, Get a little bit more comfortable at the plate, Sky’s the limit for em.

Not to speak in Basketball terms but look at how well Michael Beasley is playing? The Miami Heat traded him for merely nothing and he’s now playing to his potential with the Minnesota Timberwolves. The same could happen with Brandon Wood.

Adrian Beltre doesn’t deserve to be in a Angels uniform. Period.

um..............wow
This is Brandon Wood isn't it?

Are we
talking about 2010 B-Wood. He has more problems than simply switching batting stances. One of which is he has 0 patience at the plate. He’s Vlad without the amazing contact skills. Vlad was able to swing away at some crazy pitches, but it worked due to power and amazing hand eye coordination. He, like Pujols, is a freak of nature. B-Wood has power, but he makes little contact. No use being super strong if you can’t hit the ball.

It might take Wood playing for another team...

to realize that potential.

A team that does not belong to Major League Baseball, perhaps
Any fans of the Master and Commander series with Aubrey and Maturin?

I love those books by Patrick O’Brian. Two Brit dudes who read them beautifully (books on CD) are Patrick Tull and Richard Brown.

Master and Commander series...

+1

Working on the Sharpe series by Cornwell now

Yes

But I much prefer Cornwell’s new Alfred the Great series. His Saxon/Norseman first person narrator, Utred of Bebenberg, totally kicks ass. A lot of blood and guts and humor as well.

Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler

Though they’ve become too formulaic.

Also a fan of Faye Kellerman’s Peter Decker and Rina Lazarus mysteries.

What is a good Kellerman to start with?
Faye or Johnathan?

For Faye Kellerman, start with “The Ritual Bath”.

I couldn’t begin to tell you what the best Johnathan Kellerman is (I haven’t read him).

Right here. Up to The Nutmeg of Consolation
Dude.

You may not be into books on CD (I listen driving, cooking, washing dishes, etc.), but I’m telling you there’s nothing like listening to O’Brian read by either of the 2 dudes I mentioned above. You got to try it at least once. :).
Btw, my fave is the first book in the series and probably The Mauritius Command.

If you like old-school nautical stuff...

Then you might like the Tierra Incognita series by Kevin J. Anderson. The third and final book isn’t out yet, but I’ve read the first two and they are friggin’ sweet. They require a solid attention span though – each of the first two books were over 600 pages.

Here is a link to the first book.

Looks good

Thanks for the tip

Best book I read this year is Tent Life in Siberia. It’s a very good telling of a real life adventure undertaken by the telephone companies back in the early days sending people to Siberia in order to connect the world via telephone wire. I couldn’t put it down and highly recommend it.

I for one hope we dont sign Adrian Beltre. the guy is a crumb bum. I forsee another mo vaughn debacle if we do sign him.

And the proof of your assessment is?
Define "crumb bum"

Is that a desperate homeless guy?

House of Grass

This is arguably the greatest gothic type novel ever written, but can be a hard read. Well worth the time as it is brilliant. Mark Z. Danielewski.

New blogger here

I just believe that Arte should tell Bored Ass that someone else paid a higher amount for his “Suite Behind Home Plate’” and that person actually will come to the games and actually watch the games,instead of being a “Bored Ass”He just wants to be seen .

Apathy and Other Small Moral Victories...

Office Space gone wild. Great read that leaves you bursting with laughter.

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