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Angels General Manager Tony Reagins said that in addition to acquiring Scott Downs and Hisanori Takahashi that having a full season of Kendry Morales and Dan Haren is the equivalent of his having signed four free agents.

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If we fail to sign Adrian Beltre, are Tony's "Four Free Agents" enough?
No, We Need Beltre or the equivalent in a trade
683 votes
"The Four" are fine provided Texas does not retain Cliff Lee
121 votes
A few bounceback seasons and "The Four" should put us over the top
116 votes

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At first glance, there may be some logic to that...

…but he’s forgetting, of course, that players get injured every season. We might not lose Kendry in 2011, but we’ll lose someone important for a sustained period of time and if it’s one of our few players who knows which end of the bat to hold we’ll be shafted again.

The pitching staff looks peachy, the offense still looks anaemic. TR still has work to do.

Tony's comments about the "four free agents"

…was, in my opinion, nothing more than the same, tired “feel-good” spin that started with “we’ll win with what we’ve got”.

The offense is anemic with, in my opinion, holes at 3rd base, LF, and if Napoli is DH’ing – catcher.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
I love how a few days ago, sky was the limit in terms of FA's.

Now Tony is telling us Dan Haren and Kowbell are the equivalent of new FA’s. I hope Dan does a better job at 3rd than Brandon Wood.

If we're operating in a vacuum, sure it's plenty.

But we don’t and we live in a world where the Yankees, Red Sox Rangers and Twins all have deeper lineups.

Are we trying to do just enough to sneak into the playoffs or actually win something?

Tony should get the axe for letting this shit dribble out of his mouth.

Big splashes!

I hope Reagins is right

But I’m afraid it’ll be more like The Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse.

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

That looks like a Boris Vallejo, or at least someone ripping off Vallejo. He is the greatest artist in the history of mankind.

Buff dudes, boobs and mystical creatures…he hits all the cornerstones of good art.

Franz Frazetta's Farts

are superior to Vallejo’s highest efforts.

Frazetta rules and is the blueprint, no doubt. I like Vallejo because of his more batshit concepts, like medieval knights on motorcycles and a buff Jesus ripping a cross to pieces.
Reagins is full of shit....

    Sorry but this is political spin and nothing more. He just wants lesser knowledgeable fans to feel good about buying season tickets. That’s part of his job.
 
     We need another bat or this team is going to struggle again. Putting that bat at 3B makes the most sense since our third basemen suck. For some reason we aren’t looking for a catcher. I hope we’re looking for a left fielder.

We still have no one to hit behind Kendry, though

So suck that logic, Tony.

We need another big bat

But if we get rid of Mathis, then it’d be enough.

That's called addition by subtraction...

Mathis not fun.

By that logic,

making the decision to tender Mathis is the equivalent to having lost out on a Carl Crawford.

Oh. Wait.

The only thing

I don’t like about the Angels, is when they open their mouth and talk. Whether it’s the FO or Soth or even the players, (‘cept Torii maybe.) It’s the same canned bullshit, one game at a time, we’re confident with our team, blah, blah, blah. just once I’d like to see one of them say something original. Or hell, just shut up and say nothing. Might as well answer everything with “No comment.” It would be about the same thing.

Grumble, grumble, how long till spring training….

who cares still not going to win you a world series, bo sox are loaded and the yanks will always be in the mix

True, but anyone can have a bad series.

Put just about any two teams in a short series and the team that has fewer bad games is going to come out on top once play begins no matter what roster you do or do not have. True, the team with the better roster to begin with will be less likely to have multiple bad games, but it has happened in the past.

I didn't know they handed out trophies in December

We don’t have to beat Boston or New York to get to the playoffs; we have to beat Texas (and possibly Oakland).

In a 5-7 game series, I’ll put Weaver, Haren, Santana, Pineiro against Lester, Beckett, Buckholz, Lackey or Lee, CC, Burnett, Hughes and run with it. Our bullpen is arguably better than both of those teams’ too, with the exception of Mariano.

Sure they do. Didn't you see Seattle's trophy ceremony last December?
They got the trophies from Oriental Trading Company, right?

They looked very impressive. Gold plastic and everything!

You mean the Fail Trophy?

Yeah

I saw it on page 58, I think. Just that model, too!

We haven't had a top tier 3rd baseman since Glaus

We are going to offer Beltre a good amount of money and a 6 year deal, there’s no guarantee that Morales will come back and be 2009 Kendry, which is my greatest fear. A 1.5 year layoff from baseball could do that to him :(

Beltre is a great defender, has power, and will be a great hitter to our lineup that can compliment Torii Kendry and Bobby. The main issue is that we will have a righty-heavy lineup but things could be worse.

My next question is, do we go after Magglio as well? He’s seeking a 2 yr deal but maybe we can get one with an option and a buyout if he sucks this next year.

What 3B players are out there we could get, though?

Beltre is of course the name on everyone’s lips. I am not sure who is available and I’m pretty sure that the Mets are going to veto talks about Wright at the beginning of the conversation.

I agree with your point about Glaus being our last really good 3B player.

None

Beltre is seriously our only realistic option.

We haven’t had a top tier 3rd baseman since Glaus Carney Lansford

Doug DeCinces did more for us than C-Lan

Though I’ll take Glaus.

Cliff Lee ain't comin' back to Texas

That’s worth SOMETHING.

A whole damn lot of something!
Just too many steaming craters in this offense-

Like others have mentioned, 3B, Mathis in the lineup, maybe CF (although I’m willing to give Bourjos’s bat a chance to develop) and LF when Rivera and whoever is out there. If the team doesn’t get off its butt and sign Beltre, the last biggie free agent that would fill a pothole in the lineup for us, this is going to be a seriously lousy year- rebuilding without any pieces to rebuild with.

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