SCIOSCIA: Thanks for the Sham-Wow tie Arte, it absorbs lasagna stains so fast that I am eating like a slob without fear again, even when I am all spiffed up like this. MORENO: Just win, baby, I will order more meatballs…
Arte: thanks for meeting me, Mike, this off-season has been great.
We’ve gotten rid of a lot of dead weight (you know, expensive players), and I’ve even managed to up ticket prices. The best part is nobody even ridicules me because of the sham going on across town. Those poor McCourts.
Mike: what about our team? Don’t you want to be competitive?
Arte: Quit talking nonsense, Mike. I went out and got us Matsui. His revenue alone in the Japanese market will bring me millions.
Mike: I understand you’re going to be rich this season, but don’t you want your team to compete?
Arte: two words for you: Fernando Rodney.
Mike: do you feel at all bad for the fans with the departure of Lackey, Figgins, and Vlad??
1) gained about $260 million in equity since 2003;
2) swung his operating income from -$38 mill in his first three years to a +$36 mill over the next 3;
3) increased his gate receipts in that same time by $22 mill per year while reducing his debt ratio by 30%;
4) realized $1.4 billion in revenue, with 2008 alone being $212 mill, an $85 mill increase over 2003;
5) meanwhile, after bumping payroll in 2004, he has held payroll to roughly the same 10% range ever since?
I am not saying the guy is cheap, but he is not stupid, either.
equity doesnt pay bills or sign checks, but it’s nice that fans think Arte should lose money on player payroll because he has perceived gains in value.
citing revenues without citing expenses is pointless. As is foregoing figures from 2009 when we are talking about 2010.
my point was that people crying their hearts out over the club maintaining the same payroll figure as the 2009 season is beyond stupid. Call me crazy, but I’m content to have a top 5ish payroll. I haven’t forgotten life before Arte like everyone else apparently has.
The only expenses they provide are player expenses, which include more than just payroll. I did quote them. If you want the details,
2003 = $89 mill
2004 = $122 mill
2005 = $111 mill
2006 = $112 mill
2007 = $119 mill
2008 = $132 mill
There. I quoted expenses in detail. Note they match my statement “meanwhile, after bumping payroll in 2004, he has held payroll to roughly the same 10% range ever since”.
And the reason I am not quoting 2009 figures is because Forbes will not publish those until April. When they do, I will be back.
Other points:
- Unless you are his accountant, you have no idea that Arte is, or would, lose any money at any level of payroll. You are making that whole thing up out of thin air.
- Not knowing that he does, but Arte could easily mortgage that equity and incur debt to pay any expenses. And he can pay those expenses by check if he wishes.
- Including 2009 through 2013, the Halos payroll commitment ranks, as of right now, 7th, 9th, 9th, 8th and 19th.
- Finally, holding payroll at an absolute value over time is actually a DECREASE in payroll, due to inflation. The downturn in the outer economy did not eradicate inflation.
“Mike Scioscia, manager of the LAA of A greets Arte Moreno, owner of the LAA of A after the first meeting of ‘The Curtis Granderson Fan Club’ held in Paradise Valley, AZ.”
Do you think we can still get him even from the Yankees?
And if so, who do you think it would take? I think we could give them Robb Quinlan and John Lackey, and maybe throw in Brendan Woods and Irving Santana, too! Come on Tony, make it happen!
My sister-in-law and her mother worked for the city and camped in those seats. Of course, they got into a little trouble over embezzling, but that is another story…
Manager and Owner finalize the process of becoming BFFs (Best Friends Forever)
The formal handshake (pictured) officially initiates the bond, the highest social bond between two individuals recognized by the US legal system.
The deal ensures that in the event of Moreno’s death, Scioscia would inherit his Sony PSP. Moreno would inherit Scioscia’s secret lasagna recipe if he passed away.
Though not visible, the matching half-heart necklaces are believed to be worn discreetly under both men’s shirts.
Los Angeles Angels owner Arte Moreno, left, a known practical joker, prepares to use a “joy buzzer” while a naked Tony Reagins distracts his manager Mike Scioscia, right, following meetings with baseball owners and general managers Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010, in Paradise Valley, Ariz. (AP Photo/Paul Connors)
Mike: Hey Arte what’s with the glasses?
Arte: The glare off of your blad head is killing me.
Mike: Sorry Sir…
Arte: No worries… Bosley is a sponser again this year… I’ll hook you up!
So you PROMISE to start Wood then, none of this Izturis shit anymore, right Sosh?
Ok, good, now shake on it.
PhiSlamma - January 14, 2010
Arte: Hey, coac- Wait. Dude, you have a lasagna stain on your shirt
Sosh: really? F***
Figgi4life - January 14, 2010 via mobile
or the inverse
SCIOSCIA: Thanks for the Sham-Wow tie Arte, it absorbs lasagna stains so fast that I am eating like a slob without fear again, even when I am all spiffed up like this.
MORENO: Just win, baby, I will order more meatballs…
Rev Halofan - January 14, 2010
Yours puts mine to shame
Figgi4life - January 14, 2010 via mobile
Dude, d'you see that chick with Frank McCourt?
Taa-lent!
LAASurfin - January 14, 2010
They made me an offer I couldnt refuse.
Oh I am sorry ,We didnt make ANY decent offers for Bay,Halladay or Holliday.
Guardian Angel Joe - January 14, 2010
Mike: Hey! You would happen to have
Doc Halladay behind you there somewhere, would ya, Arte? Damn…
Raaddad - January 14, 2010
Sosh: Wait, before I shake your hand...
Arte: Yes Sosh there is gonna be lasagna after every game
Sosh: Yes!
angelskid2210 - January 14, 2010
Arte: thanks for meeting me, Mike, this off-season has been great.
We’ve gotten rid of a lot of dead weight (you know, expensive players), and I’ve even managed to up ticket prices. The best part is nobody even ridicules me because of the sham going on across town. Those poor McCourts.
Mike: what about our team? Don’t you want to be competitive?
Arte: Quit talking nonsense, Mike. I went out and got us Matsui. His revenue alone in the Japanese market will bring me millions.
Mike: I understand you’re going to be rich this season, but don’t you want your team to compete?
Arte: two words for you: Fernando Rodney.
Mike: do you feel at all bad for the fans with the departure of Lackey, Figgins, and Vlad??
Arte: who?
bc56274 - January 14, 2010
i assure you the angels arent making enough year to year for arte to be "rich" because he MAINTAINED payroll
there are so many more expenses than the average fan knows about.
so please people, enough with this whole “arte is too cheap to be competitive” act. it’s old.
ihearhowie2.0 - January 14, 2010
I am fairly sure it was a joke, but...
I tend to think that Arte’s pocket will get a little additional lining in 2010 due to the ASG. Maybe I assume wrong?
Downing Rules - January 14, 2010
Which then gives more $$$$ for the likes of the next free agent class...
We hope…
Clutch - January 14, 2010
How dare you mock my caption.
bc56274 - January 14, 2010
You are aware, are you not, that Arte has
1) gained about $260 million in equity since 2003;
2) swung his operating income from -$38 mill in his first three years to a +$36 mill over the next 3;
3) increased his gate receipts in that same time by $22 mill per year while reducing his debt ratio by 30%;
4) realized $1.4 billion in revenue, with 2008 alone being $212 mill, an $85 mill increase over 2003;
5) meanwhile, after bumping payroll in 2004, he has held payroll to roughly the same 10% range ever since?
I am not saying the guy is cheap, but he is not stupid, either.
Stirrups - January 14, 2010
Neat. Be sure to add all those nifty little notes in your caption.
bc56274 - January 14, 2010
Mike: Que pasa, Arte, mi amigo
Raaddad - January 14, 2010
Mike: Que pasa, Arte, mi amigo
Raaddad - January 14, 2010
ah, screwed that up--nevermind
the kids jumped me, damn them
I will have revenge…
Raaddad - January 14, 2010
Sometimes child-abuse is a necessary evil.
Go show those kids who is in charge!
bc56274 - January 14, 2010
mmhmm
equity doesnt pay bills or sign checks, but it’s nice that fans think Arte should lose money on player payroll because he has perceived gains in value.
citing revenues without citing expenses is pointless. As is foregoing figures from 2009 when we are talking about 2010.
my point was that people crying their hearts out over the club maintaining the same payroll figure as the 2009 season is beyond stupid. Call me crazy, but I’m content to have a top 5ish payroll. I haven’t forgotten life before Arte like everyone else apparently has.
ihearhowie2.0 - January 14, 2010
I am using Forbes data.
The only expenses they provide are player expenses, which include more than just payroll. I did quote them. If you want the details,
2003 = $89 mill
2004 = $122 mill
2005 = $111 mill
2006 = $112 mill
2007 = $119 mill
2008 = $132 mill
There. I quoted expenses in detail. Note they match my statement “meanwhile, after bumping payroll in 2004, he has held payroll to roughly the same 10% range ever since”.
And the reason I am not quoting 2009 figures is because Forbes will not publish those until April. When they do, I will be back.
Other points:
- Unless you are his accountant, you have no idea that Arte is, or would, lose any money at any level of payroll. You are making that whole thing up out of thin air.
- Not knowing that he does, but Arte could easily mortgage that equity and incur debt to pay any expenses. And he can pay those expenses by check if he wishes.
- Including 2009 through 2013, the Halos payroll commitment ranks, as of right now, 7th, 9th, 9th, 8th and 19th.
- Finally, holding payroll at an absolute value over time is actually a DECREASE in payroll, due to inflation. The downturn in the outer economy did not eradicate inflation.
Stirrups - January 14, 2010
Mike: "After this offseason, I cannot even look you in the eye when I shake your hand"
Downing Rules - January 14, 2010
Arte: Good to see you Mike
Mike: That CANNOT be Tiger Woods over there in the bushes with that jackrabbit.
Spird - January 14, 2010
Ugh. You beat me to the Tiger Wood reference. Oh well...
sothball - January 14, 2010
Hey Mike, is this handshake really a part of becoming "made’?
Yeah boss…it’s a part of the process.
Glad I remembered the shades.
Yeah, it’s best to conceal any hint of fear.
Fear? I just got "made"! I didn’t have any fear?
Uh…no boss…that was the meal before the…uh…"ceremony".
You mean…there’s more?
Yup.
I’m not "made" yet?
Nope.
Is DeNiro a part of the next…phase…and does it involve a…baseball bat?
I guess we’ll find out. You’re not untouchable.
Is that the tree Tiger ran into?
Nah! That’s in Florida.
Nerves…I think I’ll keep the shades on…for now.
Good idea.
sothball - January 14, 2010
Ah crap. Caption, not conversation. I f****d up.
“Mike Scioscia, manager of the LAA of A greets Arte Moreno, owner of the LAA of A after the first meeting of ‘The Curtis Granderson Fan Club’ held in Paradise Valley, AZ.”
sothball - January 14, 2010
Oh boy! Oh boy! A Curtis Granderson FAN CLUB! WHERE DO I SIGN UP??
Clutch - January 14, 2010
Do you think we can still get him even from the Yankees?
And if so, who do you think it would take? I think we could give them Robb Quinlan and John Lackey, and maybe throw in Brendan Woods and Irving Santana, too! Come on Tony, make it happen!
Clutch - January 14, 2010
Arte: See Mike, not spending any money on free agents got us these sharps suits.
Mike: Lasagna?
clover_black - January 14, 2010
Arte: I just ate the last of the lasagna... and no I didn't save you any
Sosh: Wait what? You bastard!
blast21dave - January 14, 2010
“Arte, quick, grab my hand! We gotta get outta here. I see Curt Pringle and he still looks kinda pissed. Besides, the buffet just opened.”
Stirrups - January 14, 2010
Haha
I went to highschool with Curt’s daughter.
I asked, he can’t get free tickets.
Teixeira Who? - January 14, 2010
The city has tons of seats
He lied.
hauldog - January 14, 2010
This is true.
My sister-in-law and her mother worked for the city and camped in those seats. Of course, they got into a little trouble over embezzling, but that is another story…
Stirrups - January 14, 2010
I sit in them all the time myself
hauldog - January 14, 2010
Yeah
I figured he just didn’t want all of my buddies and myself hounding his daughter for tickets.
Teixeira Who? - January 15, 2010
Mike, I lost my ass in the market this past year, and my properties have gone to shit,
so thanks for the $100 loan.
PieceOfAase - January 14, 2010
Giving it a shot.
Mike: Hey Arte, good to see you…did you hear something?
Arte: Just the sabermetric community underestimating us again.
Zu Long - January 14, 2010
Good god the comments in that are terrible
hauldog - January 14, 2010
i said it before and i will say it again
Baseball Prjection nerds would kill themselves if they knew how similar their chat posts sounded to discussions in astrology forecasting chat rooms.
Rev Halofan - January 14, 2010
It is a good thing they are not gamblers
hauldog - January 14, 2010
Hey Godfather, let me ask a favor...
Balls and Strikes - January 14, 2010
bingo.
shiftyeyedgoat - January 14, 2010
MIKE: Hi Arte--Ah, CRAP!!!--look out behind you!--
ARTE: Huh?!
MIKE: It’s that damn Rev Hellfan guy tryin’ to get another picture with me for that freakin’ blog of his!
ARTE: Madre mia! Look at the hair on him!
(Sorry, rev, couldn’t resist :) …..but great post concept, bro)
Raaddad - January 14, 2010
Moreno: "Hey Mike...pull my finger."
Scioscia: “He’s my boss I guess I have to fall for this old joke again.”
44FAN - January 14, 2010
You stole mine
Is it bad that Pull my finger is the first thing I thought of?
Higz - January 15, 2010
Hey, thanks for f@#$ing me Arte.
Arte: Well sorry So-
Mike: No seriously, how many times in a row do you want me to win manager of the year?
expoforever - January 14, 2010
Arte-"So we're in agreement?"
“I allow you to keep Maicer Izturis on the field, while not playing Brandon Wood, you keep those naked pictures of me on the down low.”
halofolife - January 14, 2010
OMG! Look out behind You!! Its the FuenteRodneysoarus-wreck!
Wally's World - January 14, 2010
Arte: So you come to me on this, the day of my daughter's wedding, asking me for a favor?
red floyd - January 14, 2010
any godfather reference is an automatic rec
teopeht - January 14, 2010
A Godfather reference, you sir get a rec.
halofolife - January 14, 2010
Wow, the fans are screaming bloody murder....
We swept the Sox and won 97 games and they still dont think we know what were doing? They are becoming more like Yankee fans every day.
Arch_Angel7 - January 14, 2010
"Hey Mike! Wazzap!!!"
“Faint”
eyespy - January 15, 2010
"Wait, is that your eating hand or your wiping hand?"
Suboptimal - January 15, 2010
It looks like some mafia meeting.
Chzburger Jones - January 15, 2010
Hence my Godfather quote above.
red floyd - January 15, 2010
Moreno happy he didn't buy the Pirates.
No more yellow ties for Scioscia.
hittheg - January 15, 2010
Arte: If they only knew what i have up my sleeve....
MIkey: Hope so, because HH fans are pretty upset we haven’t done anything!!!
clippersnomatterwhat - January 15, 2010
Arte: "Nice to meet you, Mr. Limbaugh."
njhalofan - January 15, 2010
"Would you like a chocolate pretzel?"
Zoe Necrosis - January 15, 2010
They're a little melty but damn are they exsquisite.
SalmonStream - January 15, 2010
Uh Arte... why is that wrecking ball tearing down the stadium?
and now you want us to play at a Little League field in downtown Los Angeles?
Evilsurvivor666 - January 15, 2010
Manager and Owner finalize the process of becoming BFFs (Best Friends Forever)
The formal handshake (pictured) officially initiates the bond, the highest social bond between two individuals recognized by the US legal system.
The deal ensures that in the event of Moreno’s death, Scioscia would inherit his Sony PSP. Moreno would inherit Scioscia’s secret lasagna recipe if he passed away.
Though not visible, the matching half-heart necklaces are believed to be worn discreetly under both men’s shirts.
Commander_Nate - January 15, 2010
Hey Cartman
At least give credit where its due!
dmhead - January 15, 2010
Well it's not a very good game
If I just lay out the references without people getting a chance to guess now is it?
Jeez…
Commander_Nate - January 15, 2010
"Paper."
“Paper.”
“Tie.”
rspencer - January 15, 2010
Don't look now Arte,
But that jerk from Lookout Landing that followed us here is naked up in that tree behind you.
vr, Xei
Xeifrank - January 15, 2010
Los Angeles Angels owner Arte Moreno, left, a known practical joker, prepares to use a “joy buzzer” while a naked Tony Reagins distracts his manager Mike Scioscia, right, following meetings with baseball owners and general managers Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010, in Paradise Valley, Ariz. (AP Photo/Paul Connors)
WiHaloFan - January 15, 2010
I gotta hand it to you Mr. Scioscia...
jew got everything a man could want.
3rd Echelon - January 15, 2010
I Win...
Mike: Hey Arte what’s with the glasses?
Arte: The glare off of your blad head is killing me.
Mike: Sorry Sir…
Arte: No worries… Bosley is a sponser again this year… I’ll hook you up!
THE ABNER - January 15, 2010
It is done Capo...
…Figgins is gone, he sleeps with the Fishers
The Limey - January 15, 2010
Mike: Hey Boss, thanks for the great offseason, asshole !
Arte: You can’t handle the truth !
Funke5ive - January 15, 2010
Hey Arte, remember Eckstein?
He was about this tall. Seriously, he barely came up to my waist.
Designerguy - January 16, 2010
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