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Panther:hmmm...Hokie joe struggled early, but finished strong.

i voted K-Mo

well I vote KMO too.....

I woulda voted for Figgy….but both played good.

Why is it Panther?

Why not player?

Not complaining, I’m a Carolina Panther fan :)

this is why: http://www.halosheaven.com/story/2006/6/5/41318/19900

I am unable to get that to work...

go o the homepage, middle of right sidebar

the link is on top of panther tattoo

ahhhh

thanks

It was Figgy until he ran into an out at third

leftwing - April 28, 2009 reply

I thnink it's pathetic that

Fuentes is up there…

indeed

Then don't vote for him

IF you don’t value saves simply vote for someone else.

Rev Halofan - April 28, 2009 reply

I value 1 run saves...

A 3 run lead should never be blown IMO. Anyway, just not voting for Fuentes. :-)

I value saves,

I just don’t think that K-Rod was on POTG each time HE got a save…

whatver. I voted for K-Mo anywho…

man that was a source of many heated debates on here last year.......

it’s just opinions man……you vote for who you want….and all is good.

so wait...

he was on the POTG each time?

Interesting……

no he wasnt...

which was part of the problem………some people value saves highly….others dont….so people were mad that Frankie hardly ever got any panthers……….which is why Rev went to more of a democracy voting decisions……..but even as you see now……there is always gonna be disagreements…….

Its kinda funny how we all can watch the same game……yet see different things…..thats the beauty of individuality.

I didn't actually watch...

the ninth, I didn’t watch any. I watched 1-8 on GD, but abandoned in the ninth. So, when I saw that Fuentes was up there, I went back and watched, but was suprised to see he did just what I thought he’d do…Nothing more nothing less…

But, I didn’t mind that he was up there, I was just suprised.

That’s the way it should be though. If him being up there is a result of a whole year’s worth of problems, he should be up there.

and thats one of the main points people would bring up....

Frankie last year was “just doing his job” and thus people would argue the only way he could get a panther was to pitch more than 1 inning (which never happened) or strike out 4 in a inning…..or something along those lines…

needless to say……that debate came up alot…….as evidence by Frankie’s stellar statistical season last year

This is the case

for Fuentes’ inclusion. Well-stated, no matter which side of the argument you are on.

Rev Halofan - April 28, 2009 reply

44FAN - April 28, 2009 reply

WhereTF did you find that?

I think SI story

http://travelerocity.blogs.com/travelerocity/2006/08/index.html

Don't remember, had it in a file for a long time.

44FAN - April 28, 2009 reply

That was on the Angels' site for a while his first year

rspencer - April 28, 2009 reply

Here is a link from the fan site of the Arkansas Travelers

http://travelerocity.blogs.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/howie_kendrick_si.jpg

BBFan1 - April 29, 2009 reply

Is that an Oriole pie?

Fuentes is an option?

For kicks?

BryanHarvey'sMoustache - April 28, 2009 reply

First time this season we've had consecutive wins!

can we make it a whopping THREE tomorrow?

Aybar

Can we have a blame of the game when we win?

ponusbaum43 - April 28, 2009 reply

lol we should

the would have been BOTG

thats pointless lol

No

That’s silly.

TheTypingFiend - April 28, 2009 reply

To be fair..

This game would have been a lot less close if it weren’t for his K, GIDP, error, and if he was Brandon Wood.

ponusbaum43 - April 28, 2009 reply

true dat

Good thing we have Aybar in there for his D and OBP. :(

Halo84653 - April 28, 2009 reply

Yeah -

I am tiring of the Aybar Experiment. He just doesn’t belong in MLB as a starter. He is a fine utility IF – can play 3 positions, I’m sure. But he can’t friggin’ hit and we have a kid that looked locked and loaded at the plate against the M’s the other day who has proved himself in AAA and deserves a shot to hit ML pitching everyday….

Everyday that Aybar is the starting SS is a condemnation on Scioscia for lack of imagination and valuing the wrong things in a ballplayer. Middle infielders were all glove, no hit in the 1980’s Mike – but the game evolved. Without you, I’m afraid.

jimmuscomp - April 29, 2009 reply

Seconded

Maybe Sosh is coming around though. At least he’s starting Maicer at short today. Aybar benched according to the radio broadcast.

Higz - April 29, 2009 reply

-1

Downing Rules - April 29, 2009 reply

So where's this awesome defense and offense I've heard about from him?

red floyd - April 29, 2009 reply

It's stuck in early last season.

solid win

got 7 runs without having to rely on Torii hunter’s bat

Yeah

Good to see that we’ll win even if he doesn’t carry the team. Good to see him get the run home with a runner at third and less than two outs though!

Results: Tied in runs, HK has more hits, HK has more Ribbis

The Halo is lit!

I don’t care about Pregame picks right now. Hahah :-)

nice.........

picked up a game one the M's

two games in a row!

wallispdub1 - April 28, 2009 reply

Well, we picked up half a game today

The M’s look to win the second half of the double header easily.

ah good call

wallispdub1 - April 28, 2009 reply

When they are posted

Where are they posted? New to the site and I’ve not been able to find it.

angelsfan777 - April 28, 2009 reply

waaa?

sorry

that was supposed to be a reply.
The pre-game poll – where are the results posted.

angelsfan777 - April 28, 2009 reply

so...

you make your picks, but can’t find them?

If so, read below.

HEY LOOK THAT RHYMES!!!!!!

But, if so, read norcalli’s reply…

they will show up as a big box "RESULTS" its brown and red and other colors. in the main part of the post......

but ScottNak the guy who posts em said he’s got some school work to do and probably wont post till later tonight

Gotta go with Figgins

2-3, double, 2 runs, 2BB, 2SB. Quite a night.

vladtheimpaler - April 28, 2009 reply

Can't argue with that line.

The stolen bases really did a great job messing with the pitcher’s heads.

was quite a night......

It’s always better discussing a Panther…………rather than a blame though :)

One's panther can be anothers blame!

vladtheimpaler - April 29, 2009 reply

FanGraphs

Has Morales running away as the best contributor tonight.

Good game:

is there an explanation somewhere on how fangraphs comes up with its findings?

Not that I disagree with it tonight……..just curious.

your two year old scribbles up and down and there you go... Fangraphs

cupie - April 28, 2009 reply

LOL.

I've thought that before,

looking at the wierdness of it…..

It's win probability. The K-Mo double...

made it about 85% sure that the Halos would win. Before that it was at about 65%.

Think about it – the game starts (left most part of X axis) with each team having a 50% shot at winning (the Y axis). As events unfold – that probability changes. The Mora single put the O’s at 75% chance to win – but that was the 3rd inning.

So as other stuff happens – the Howie HR for instance – the probability returns to just about 50%. Anyway, that K-Mo double made a one-run game a three-run game in the 7th inning. That really changes a teams’ chance of winning. Of course, Scot with one “T” tried his best to blow another gam, but K-Mo would not be denied.

jimmuscomp - April 29, 2009 reply

If you look at WPA and the current score of the game...

You’ll see that you only have a +50% chance of winning when your team has the lead. You can get very close to 50% while down, say with no outs and the bases loaded, but as you get outs without scoring runs, your win probability will drop (you have much less chance of driving in the run with 2 outs than you did with 0 outs) … it actually makes a great deal of sense if you watched the game and the Fangraph together.

Right - I agree. I completely "get" it.

Our friend up-thread was asking about it – sorry if my response was confusing….

jimmuscomp - April 29, 2009 reply

I was confusing. :-)

I should have responded to him, not you. My bad!

AlanFalcon - April 30, 2009 reply

No problem...

jimmuscomp - April 30, 2009 reply

Well

~~I think they coded retrosheet (all PBP data from like ever, or 1951, one of those two), and look at how each play in each situation correlates to a win, or something like that.~~
Magic

anaheim angels - April 28, 2009 reply

what I find weird is how KMO's WPA is so much greater than Figgy's.....

when Figgy’s overall stats were superior…..

I guess some stats are weighed more heavily than others.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/get-to-know-wpa/

WPA takes into account the importance of the situation. A two out double with a man on second in a tight game

will get a higher WPA than a one out double with a man on 2nd in a run away game.

Halo84653 - April 28, 2009 reply

cool thats what I have been looking for thanks!

I'm pretty sure Figgins running into an out at third base

Means that FanGraphs sees that just like any other out (because, in a way, it really was), and without that double Figgins’ numbers aren’t quite as impressive. Still, I’m glad we’re being aggressive and forcing the other team’s defense to be perfect, and I don’t think FanGraphs gives points for potential.

well thats like saying without one of KMO's double......his numbers wouldnt have been as impressive either.

norcaliangelsfan - April 29, 2009 reply

Huh?

KMO doubled productively. Figgins, before another batter came to bat, was out on the ball he hit. In terms of helping the team win, he contributed nothing on his double out-at-third.

Kendrick = panther

KMo and Figgy had big games too, but we really needed that HR when we were down 4-2 and Joe was struggling. It changed the whole game around.

Brody - April 28, 2009 reply

Kendrick

Had to do a happy dance or two after he hit that home run.

BBFan1 - April 28, 2009 reply

Kmo=Panther

Halo84653 - April 28, 2009 reply

Sosh gets the panther for explaining to Scot that loading the bases with BBs

isn’t a winning formula.

melvintoast - April 28, 2009 reply

Kendry Morales = Panther

acuda27 - April 28, 2009 reply

Howard's Superstore = POTG

Dude those plasma TV are flying out the door!

3rd Echelon - April 28, 2009 reply

Results up!

scottnak - April 29, 2009 reply

So does the polls not work on the mobile site?

Every time I try to vote on my phone, it just goes to a blank screen.

thrill000 - April 29, 2009 reply

I get the same problem.

Had to do it

I just had to nitpick on the first paragraph. Falls Church, VA is near Maryland, not Virginia Tech. Tech is in the mountains far from Maryland. But who cares, Angels won.

RICangelfan - April 29, 2009 reply

He keeps up these ballsy performances...

we’ll call it “BALLS” church.

Downing Rules - April 29, 2009 reply

is it closer to Baltimore...

…than Frisco is to Anaheim?

Rev Halofan - April 29, 2009 reply

Is Boston near New York?