Wow this is a not-so-crazy rumor: Joel Sherman in the NY POST says that the New York Mets want to trade for Angels outfielder Juan Rivera.
Rivera has two years for $9+ Million left on his contract and Mats GM Omar Minaya loves him, having traded for him once before when he was the GM of the Montreal Expos earlier this decade. If the Angels are serious about acquiring Jason Bay, it would make sense to move Johnny Rivers.
Considering that we need bullpen help I perused the Mets roster.. but damn is that cupboard ever bare over there... check out the Mets roster and suggest a possible trade... the only player of interest I found over there was pitcher Tobi Stoner and that is just because he has the coolest name in baseball. If we packaged Rivera with a minor league prospect do the Mets have anything attractive that we could use? Ugh, doesn't seem so...
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I could see Rivera going to the Mets
but it would probably have to be for prospects…. say, some prospects that the Blue Jays may be interested in?
howiestheman - December 7, 2009
The question isn't what the Mets could give us...
its what the Mets could give Toronto.
Jay Cal - December 7, 2009
maybe the mets can give us a decent SS prospect.
Reyes!
SenorChuckles - December 7, 2009
I was just about to say
this has 3 way trade written all over it. Maybe for Doc, maybe not. Either way, I just can’t imagine they have anything worth giving up Juan for.
ihearhowie2.0 - December 7, 2009
agreed
Minaya can ship those players Toronto’s way. No need to thin out our minor league corps.
blochead - December 7, 2009
The Braves need a bat
Package Rivera or Napoli and some doodz for Vazquez.
F The Mets.
PhiSlamma - December 7, 2009
Javier has a no trade clause to west coast teams
Hough - December 7, 2009
Yes, its true
Doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
Mr. Kaplan…your turn!
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
OK, I'll play
Quoting from Cot’s:
Let’s be realistic for a moment: The guy felt strongly enough about this to have it baked into the deal he signed with the White Sox in 2007, after having been acquired from the Diamonbacks (Vasquez didn’t want to go that far from home, but at that time he lacked the contractual wherewithal to block it from happening).
He doesn’t want to play any farther away from his family than the AL or NL Central divisions.
George Kaplan - December 7, 2009
Thank you.
Stranger things have happened, that’s all I’m saying.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
You're right
Stranger things happen on this site every day.
It’s just highly unlikely, and Vasquez isn’t being mysterious about it.
George Kaplan - December 7, 2009
That
I’ll drink to. There should be a stupid trade proposal drinking game. I wouldn’t last 10 minutes.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
Get K-rod...
he might do well here…
Nashdiesel - December 7, 2009
LOL
10 27 02 - December 7, 2009
nice
jessthelion - December 7, 2009
If Rivera goes to Mets...
I think this opens the door for Vlad to come back (at a reasonable rate) as the DH. This is also assuming we sign Bay to play LF.
10 27 02 - December 7, 2009
I dont know
I kind of like the idea of Bay DH’ing every once in a while.
ihearhowie2.0 - December 7, 2009
Rivera and Wood for David Wright
There, I said it. That’s about the only player I’d give up Wood for. I mean, uh, wait, that didn’t come out right. And I enjoy the Mets.
That, or Johnny Rivers and GMJ for Johan Santana. That’s an extremely fair offer, but if the Mets want to make it even more fair they can throw in Jose Reyes.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
your going to need to add an arm at least.
Give them the other Johan Santana?
SenorChuckles - December 7, 2009
Eh, Ervin would be too much for them.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
You mean our own Johann?
halofan4life - December 7, 2009
Yes.
Clutch - December 8, 2009
the Mets would lose all their season ticket accounts if that happened.
jtkelly86 - December 8, 2009
Wait...
Omar Minaya still has a job?
clover_black - December 7, 2009
heh
Bill Bavasi was a gm for a LONG time.
blochead - December 7, 2009
Via Nick Pietruszkiewicz on ESPN
The Tigers are asking for a King’s Ransom for the vaunted Granderson.
Clubs are immediately balking at the Tiger’s requests.
PhiSlamma - December 7, 2009
fine....
saunders, santana, weaver, napoli, aybar, kendrick and rivera…. for granderson and a bag of baseballs.
they can’t have Mathis though. We’re keeping him.
Nashdiesel - December 7, 2009
Win.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
Only if we are able to re sign Q
eyespy - December 8, 2009
Power Q! FTW!!!
red floyd - December 8, 2009
But...
Curtis Granderson ISavailable, right?
Maybe we should trade for him!!!
red floyd - December 7, 2009
I see the offseason rumors are finally heating up
i was starting to get worried.
blochead - December 7, 2009
Hahaha
definitely the coolest name in baseball.
TheAngelsAngels - December 7, 2009
Who?
Clutch - December 7, 2009
tobi
stoner
TheAngelsAngels - December 7, 2009
Oh, nice.
I should try reading these fanposts every once in a while.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
I could root for a guy with a name like that . . . assuming he can pitch.
Wally's World - December 7, 2009
I don't know if he can pitch
But he definitely knows his way around the junk food aisle.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
I don't know about the coolest name...
Dick Pole defiantly gives him a run for his money.
Teixeira Who? - December 7, 2009
Brandon Wood's real first name is "Richard"
it’s a close one….
Nashdiesel - December 7, 2009
I can see why he goes by Brandon
If he wasn’t a star athlete, he would have been beaten up all the time in school.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
Probably still was...
Clutch - December 7, 2009
Soon as people found out, anyway.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
Ricardo Madera
jajajajaja
Dono Romantico - December 7, 2009
Sterling Hitchcock...
K3YEROUT - December 7, 2009
Snort
Giggle, cough. HA HA.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
There was a guy on the old Hollywood Stars that Jim Healy used to talk about
Michael Hunt. He remarked how the play-by-play announcer was always careful not to shorten the first name to “Mike.”
rspencer - December 7, 2009
Who goofed?
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
I've got a train to catch!!!
rspencer - December 7, 2009
Damn
I miss Jim Healy.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
Me too
Especially when stories like what’s going on with Tiger Woods come up. Just imagine what he’d do with that!
rspencer - December 7, 2009
She is a lovely lady and my apologies to her.
When Playboy did their first of many “college girls” issues with “the girls of the Pac 10” he went on and on about how he was forced to do “research” on this big story by acquiring a copy of said issue..
Rev Halofan - December 7, 2009
That's great.
When I first started to listen to him, I was way too young to understand wtf Healy was talking about. He was just plain great. You can’t replace him, but I wish someone would do the same format.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
That's the clip that came to mind for me, too
That, and Norm Sherry’s “Hoo-eee!”.
rspencer - December 7, 2009
For those who feel like reminiscing
http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/healybytes.html
The “Who goofed, I’ve got to know” was Al Michaels. I had no idea. The more you know…
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
No shit?
I always thought that was Cosell.
George Kaplan - December 7, 2009
That's what the site says
Believe it as much as you trust anything on the internet. I thought it was Cosell too, but I can see in my mind’s eye a young Al Michaels saying that.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009
The original is Cosell
It’s from a long tape wherein Cosell explodes when he finds out that the recording studio he has scheduled a session for is not ready for him, and he has a limited time before he has to catch a train to do Monday Night Football. Later, Al Michaels did his impression of the quote. Healy played both.
rspencer - December 7, 2009
well
Spank me and call me Suzie.
Slasher52 - December 7, 2009 via mobile
espencer is right
That is exactly as i recall it – one day Healy played the extended tape, it was Cosell asking who goofed so he could get whoever goofed FIRED. Man, Jim Healy ripped into him something awesome – of course it was years after the fact, but still awesome.
Rev Halofan - December 7, 2009
I've heard Al Michaels talk about this at length
Cosell was of course one of Healy’s favorite targets. According to Michaels, Cosell pretended indifference, but he always kept very close tabs on what Healy was saying, and he was obviously quite obsessed by it. Eventually he learned that someone at KABC was sending Cosell tapes of the show every day.
The funny thing is that Cosell actually did have a perfect right to be angry in this case, but instead of trying to fix the situation, his only interest was in finding out who goofed so he could exact revenge. Fortunately for us, this all happened in a recording studio, and someone was rolling tape.
rspencer - December 8, 2009
Trade Rivera for some decent prospects
that will free up some of our budget for Halladay, Bay, Lackey, or whoever. I would really like to see Granderson trade also. Bay will cost at least $16M and Granderson is relatively cheaper so i would prefer Granderson over Bay but fine with either one so just BRING SOMEBODY PLZ TONY C’mon… nd get rid of GMJ for any prospect.. 1:1 trade with SINGLE A player would be just fine… if any retard wants that trade
Applets - December 7, 2009
How in the world can you prefer Granderson over Bay?
Besides steals Bay does absolutely every better than Granderson offensively
PhiSlamma - December 7, 2009
But,...but,...Granderson is the best player EVER!
HOW CAN YOU DENY THIS?? :-D
Clutch - December 7, 2009
Considering..
Contract, Age, and Defense. Also speed is the huge part because he can steal once he is on base although his OBP and hitting against lefty were pretty much below average last season. And this guy can make some plays on defense.. well i always like young players over kinda old players (Bay is 31 so not so old but comparing to Granderson) so.. thats just my opinion..
Applets - December 7, 2009
Aw, geez....
Dude, seriously, had you bothered to look at Rivera’s deal before you decided to let your fingers display Tourette’s?
He is scheduled to make $4.25M this year and $5.25M next year.
In the meantime, there are some here lobbying to sign Bay for something approximating Hunter’s $19M per year.
Or others who are seriously pimping the idea of trading for Curtis Granderson, who will make (notice, I didn’t write “earn”) $26M over the next three seasons.
Rivera is a fucking steal. Why would you wish to piss him away for a prospect, just so that you can save his relatively meager salary?
George Kaplan - December 7, 2009
You, I like you
You and I must continue to mount an enthusiastic defense of reason. In this case that means prioritizing a trade of GMJ.
That is how you free up salary for other things. You don’t do it by trading a player like Rivera who is easily worth twice his salary.
Commander_Nate - December 7, 2009
There is no trade for GMJ. He has no value due to his contract.
You’ll hear rumors about Rivera because unlike GMJ, he provides value that exceeds his contract. This is what other teams want, not our problems.
Another team has to consent to a trade. Otherwise GMJ would have been traded two years ago.
snowhor - December 7, 2009
If Johan wasn't so DAMN expensive
TheAntiSox - December 7, 2009
No reason to give up Rivera when
he is being paid below market value for above average production. Sign Bay, put him in LF, put Rivera in RF and let Abreu DH. They can rotate as needed and GMJ can spell them when needed. This team needs more mashers, not less, and the $4.5 million Rivera makes isn’t precluding them from signing Bay. It doesn’t have to be an either/or.
This team needs offense…keep Rivera and ADD a bat.
jimmuscomp - December 7, 2009
Exactly my thoughts
Napoli would be the odd man out in this situation.
I can see him involved in a trade shortly after signing Bay.
PhiSlamma - December 7, 2009
ummm
i wasn’t aware any of those guys were the starting catcher. Napoli is still our catcher, and hopefully, Mathis is still our backup. the only way he’s the odd man out is in the DH slot, which is rarely saw anyway
howiestheman - December 7, 2009
Mathis proved this post-season
that he can hit when it counts. And his defense is greater than Napolis. Napoli is to see more at bats at DH now, unless we acquire another outfielder.
Jay Cal - December 8, 2009
Agree on the Mathis and his defense being better than Naps, but no on the offense
Too small of a sample size in the playoffs to conclude that Mathis somehow can finally hit MLB pitching consistently
stolenbases - December 8, 2009
You don't trade Rivera
just to free up space. He’s too cheap. You have to get something really good back for him. Or else package him with Matthews.
RallyMonkey5 - December 7, 2009
Hell No!!!!!!!
At Rivera’s salary level he is just as good a deal as Abreu was last year. And he defends better than both Abreu and Bay.
That and I just broke his jersey in with 2 playoff wins. I’m not f***in’ buying another one!!
Commander_Nate - December 7, 2009
This trade could happen
I heard the Mets just ordered a gallon of blonde highlight cream and some vanilla scented bats.
SalmonStream - December 7, 2009
and they checked in on kelvim too
are the Mets turning into the new Cardinals AKA the destination for Angel leftovers?
ihearhowie2.0 - December 7, 2009
VERY nice.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
I thought Rivera was always smelling the burning wood...
Now it turns out he was burning vanilla incense !
Jack Frost - December 8, 2009
Rivera, Saunders, Wood, and Fuentes in return for...
Frankie, Wright, and Johan Santana.
If that’s too much, we can hold back on Saunders.
bc56274 - December 7, 2009
but if we trade those guys...
whos left to give to the tigers for granderson ?
BigBangRobbDawgg - December 7, 2009
Head asplode.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
This actually makes more sense than half the stuff we see posted on here.
Not that it would ever happen.
Clutch - December 7, 2009
Rivera to Mets
Try for John Maine. Mets are trying to unload him and have been in discussions with Brewers to trade Cory Hart for John Maine.
Don’t understand this rumor since if the Angels do sign Bay (he’s a LF and not a RF) why not just shift Rivera to RF/DH? He’s cheap and had a good year in 2009. Only other thought is Arte wants to re-sign Vlad to be DH so Abreu plays RF and Maine becomes #5 starter replacing Lackey in the rotation.
ksangel - December 8, 2009
NO!!!! I will not have this!!!!! Not Juancho The Bat Sniffer!!! HE MUST STAY HERE WITH ME!!!!!!
TSamn15 - December 8, 2009
They need to unload GMJ, not Junacho….this is making me sick….
TSamn15 - December 8, 2009
unload GMJ - The PROBLEM
Coco Crisp wants $2-3M.
GMJ earns $11M?
And who would not want a player named after a kids cereal? What a marketing bonaza.
I would miss the “Battsniffer”. AAH. Pinetar.
ksangel - December 8, 2009
For those saying GMJ is untradeable
There’s been enough rumors online to indicate otherwise. I was also listening to “The Drive” last night and whoever Biggs was talking to in Indy said it appears the Angels do actually have some suitors for him.
One of the possible scenarios he mentioned was a three way deal with the Angels, Cubs, and Mets involving GMJ, Bradley, and Luis Castillo (I think). He didn’t have details, but if that trade involved just us moving GMJ and at least half of his salary at a minimum, I’d take it.
The Cubs getting GMJ and Castillo, the Mets getting Bradely and us getting another $11 million or so to spend sounds good to me. Then we can keep Juan Rivera who we would be idiotic to trade.
Commander_Nate - December 8, 2009
Agreed.
I don’t see who the Mets have to make this a good move for Rivera. But if we’re simply adding Matthews to the equation to drop some salary, works for me.
Jay Cal - December 8, 2009
So who do we get in that trade?
The only way to trade him is for someone else’s expensive problem. Why trade one for another?
These rumors are bullshit.
snowhor - December 8, 2009
We get a salary dump.
Downing Rules - December 10, 2009
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