BOTH of Frankie's ankles are injured. He's hurt: pitches are not executable in the usual fashion.
With two bad ankles, he's not able to generate the necessary torque to power his pitches. 90 mph fastball? I knew something was wrong, plus he didn't throw any of his trademark sliders. Give him a break; he's pitching hurt.
he pitches for the angels right now. he's playing now. why are you worrying about frankie's free agency? that won't happen until october, and then ALL teams will assess his value. if he's overpriced, then only fools will pay it. if he closes 40+ games again this year, then he's gonna want alot of money. that's not greed; that's market value.
As much as Saunders deserved that win, our offense needed that boost. Torii is more than worth that rediculous sum he's making, in every way.
And I think it's time we bid Frankie farewall. Let's start prepping Arredondo/Shields/Speier, and see who gets the role. Frankie was too dumb to admit the ankle injury at the end of last season, and that's pretty much unforgivable.
I just want to say this to the Seattle guys forecasting doom
for our team despite the victory:
When the chips were down, and the team closer gave up the game at home due to injury, one team took it in rear, while the other knuckled up and won anyway. That's all I need to know about which team is better.
Torii: More than a Panther. Call this one a Dragon.
The downside to this game was:
1) The injury to HK
2) The still injured Frankie. And lay off Frankie! The guy obviously is not physically sound. When he's healthy and on his game, he has command of his 94 mph fastball and unleashes a filthy lights out slider.
I told those early deserters "better luck next time, but remember, there are 27 outs in a game..."
I don't think the ones that heard me will ever leave early again. I used to have leaving early FORCED on me when I was a child, hence, I never EVER think of leaving early.
I'd estimate that 60% of the crowd was gone by the time Torii did his magic.
You could see the flow of cars heading off the lot grow stronger and stronger as folks got up and left in the top of the 9th. By the time the bases were loaded, the exits were totally empty. I had visions of people sitting out in the lot in their cars listening on the radio, debating whether or not to dash back inside. Oops! Too late!
Imagine their feeling as they sat there, engine idling, watching the fireworks exploding over center field. Their only consolation was that they were now at the front of the line to leave. Yeah. That is probably why they bought their ticket in the first place. So they could be the first to leave.
Frankie gets off the DL, showcase him and trade his ass. Some desperate fringe contender will overpay at the deadline to rent him for a few months. This guy has no clue how good he has it as an Angel. Let him earn his money the hard way -- without being coddled by a nurturing organization.
As much as I'd hate to see him go, give Shields or Speier the 9th inning role. Oliver, Shields, Speier is a nice 7/8/9. Frankie is clearly not worth what he's asking.
Say what you want about K-Rod being bad tonight, but I'll point out that this is the 162nd CONSECUTIVE game we have won after leading after the 8th inning. Now part of that is just Rally Monkey badassery (like tonight), but a big part of that is K-Rod. He is legitimately one of the best closers in baseball.
He was Panther tonight...as was Hunter! That was cool to watch! Glad I saw it...wish I was there! Can't put a price on what the Colonel is doing right now! That is money! Joe is steppin' up and I'm out...$$$$$$$$$$
for all he's done IN THE PAST, but his shelf life is about to pass its expiration date, and that's a combination of the money he's asking for and the injuries that are starting to creep up. Given his violent delivery, it's not a matter of if, but when he blows himself out. As good as he's been, closers are always overrated. And how many cold sweat/heart attacks do you want to have watching Frankie walk the first two guys, bounce a slider in the dirt, and survive by the skin of his teeth.
i think a closer has to blow considerably more than one save in order to call for his demise. he's recorded 40+ saves in the last 3 seasons and he has one of the best records among any closers in the game today. who's going to close for the angels, if not him??? not many.
THE GUY PLAYED HURT. Yes, it was dumb for him to go out there hurt, but he wanted to be a gamer. Give him a BREAK! Frankie is a STUD and will produce more saves this year once he is healthy.
the thing thats most troubling is he should know his body more than anyone and if his ankles were hurting, why would he allow himself to come in against the meat of their order with such a slim lead? he risked it, blew it and took a once a season-type miracle to save HIM.
frankie wants saves to pump his next contract, he doesnt give a shit about this team
Torii was Panther!!!!!!!!!!! (thank you reagins)
Frankie proves he is Human. (or mad he lost arbitration)
HK47 is hurt again. (damn)
Vladdy showed a little plate dicipline. (wow)
Napp threw out a runner. (it's about time)
THE HALO IS BRIGHT TONIGHT
The guy could seriously strikeout in every at-bat for the rest of the year and I wouldn't care. What he did tonight was so many levels of awesome that words cannot explain the magnitude of what transpired. He was worth every penny based off of tonight alone. And yet Scioscia will repeatedly bat him behind Anderson for the rest of the year. Maybe it's pissing Hunter off that Anderson is hitting in front of him that he's taking it out on the rest of baseball. So be it. I'm loving it.
Every time K-Rod gets a save, I'll be savoring it for all the haters who thinks he's lost it.
It is one game and it seems like everyone in the Angels' bullpen but K-Rod gets to have a 'get out Angels' fans wrath' card, especially if they are Scot Shields [who is overpaid] or Justin Speier [who really is overpaid].
As the game went to the bottom of the 9th, my wife & I were finishing dinner & went to sit down in the den. Her stipulation: only if we watch something other than baseball. Given the state of affairs, I acquiesced and we watched a movie. So, I just checked in here to see what "LOSE" picture was posted, and to go off on a rant about why K-Rod belongs on the DL (he does), and I see the improbable "WIN" picture. What the fuck? Yeah, I'm using a season's worth of F-bombs here (hey, this is mild compared to how they're going over at Lookout Landing, but I digress).
So, now I'm going to have to TiVo the replay. Geez.
By the way, Saunders pitched a heck of a game against a far more daunting offense than Minnesota's.
the thing is, technically, I didn't turn it off (the TV was still on, and it was still tuned to the game; it's just that we were watching a DVD instead.
I'm famous for this, though. I was at the game last year when Figgins went 6-6, including that game-winning hit (I think it was a triple). I left, though, when the warmed over corpse of Hector Carrasco was busy hemorrhaging runs. The Angels scored the winning run as I pulled into my driveway. And that wasn't the first time I'd left a game too early (I left a game in 2006 when AK came up with a game-winning hit as I was headed north on the 5, just passing the 91 interchange).
I've vowed never to leave early again. Although if Arte wants to buy me a season seat that I can leave early, I'd consider it...for the good of the team, of course!
I'm not mad about his blowing the save; that happens. The problem is, he's injured. Right now, it's his ankles...both of them. Soon enough, though, it will be his shoulder or elbow. That's what happens when pitchers try to alter their mechanics (as he has admittedly done) when trying to deal with an injury to the lower half of the body, be it the hip, knee or ankle. If he doesn't take some time off, he'll suffer an arm injury. That (and the steroids) is what did in Eric Gagne. He tried to pitch with a bum knee, and blew out his elbow while trying not to land so hard. That's exactly what's going to happen to Frankie. At best, he'll pitch ineffectively; at worst, major arm injury.
I could see that he was gingerly pushing off his right foot. It was obvious from where I was sitting. No power at all in the warm-ups and that translated to his performance.
Today’s LA Times article "Rodriguez's ankles are a source of concern" is echoing my sentiments that I stated last night. The quotes below are taken directly from the article:
"The closer's ankles, which are both sprained, heavily taped, and, in the words of Manager Mike Scioscia, a cause for ‘concern’."
"I couldn't get any balance on my back leg, and I was using all arm, not pushing off the rubber with my leg," Rodriguez said. "I couldn't locate my fastball. I had no power in my legs."
"His fastball, normally about 94 mph, has hovered around 91 mph, and his usually nasty slider hasn't been that sharp."
Means if he doesn't take the time off for his ankles now, he'll have plenty of time to stay off his feet fairly soon while he undergoes Tommy John surgery for his elbow.
Right after that game, FSN did a little promo for the next game and said, "Watch Torri Hunter and the Angels take on the Indians..."
Step aside, Vladdy? Very interesting. Perhaps this will generate a bit of a slugging competition between the two. ESPN still won't acknowledge it.
to be the face of the franchise, IMO. The guy has such a great personality and amazing on-field performance. He is a very marketable figure and will help further promote the Angels Baseball product.
a light hearted public "competition" between him and Vlad created by the media a la Maris and Mantle (on a much smaller scale of course)? I think that's quite marketable to fans as well, even if it never really exists in the club house.
I was amazed it took this long for someone to post that
In the same thread we're bragging about having the record of not losing games when leading after 8, we have short term minded morons talking about getting rid of Frankie. A lead after 8, who do you think is responsible for savings almost all of those leads? My God.
I just think Frankie's not worth the $15 million he's asking for. I'm sure he'll get his share of saves, and that's great. We're all on the same page. But watching him, he's like a ticking time bomb. And for whatever reason, I sense he doesn't bleed Halo red. He's a mercenary (I say that based on his spring training comments). So good riddance. And if Spier and Shields are overpaid, let's make 'em closers so that can earn their money.
great "Football Configuration" shot of the stadium in the win pic. There was also a great shot of that configuration in the Register today showing Gene and Jackie inside the stadium (probably to discuss Gene's new "star" he got from the city of Anaheim). Always loved those Marlboro ads near the long scoreboards (although I don't smoke). What an atrocious yet glorious place it was to watch the team in the 80's...ahh, the memories.
Look, I know Frankie is our guy, right now. He has put up some great numbers over his career since he came up, no argument.
A couple of years ago, Angel games were 7 inning affairs because Shields and Frankie were lights out. You just knew the game was over. Same thing for the Yankees and Rivera, Red Sux and Papelbon, Dodgers and Gagne (when he was on the juice).
My problem is that Frankie still believes he is that guy and wants to be paid as that guy. He isn't that guy any more. I am getting to the point that I would rather have a tired starter attempt to complete a close game than turn it over the Frankie.
A couple of games ago, YesWeCan tried to give Frankie POG instead of Ervin. A number of us convinced him to change. Now I am wondering if that might have been Frankie's only chance (ok, I am kidding here).
My point here is we all want that 'game over' Frankie, not the 2007 1.248 WHIP or worse the 2008 2.4 WHIP (granted 2008 is small sample size).
EPICCC
ANewFoundThrice - April 7, 2008
That would be "E - p - i - i - c"
Stirrups - April 7, 2008
ha ha ha
Cute, I get it!
lightupthehalo - April 7, 2008
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!
WOW! Bummed about Frankie but this night belongs to Mr. Hunter!
ReggieBullits - April 7, 2008
Joe pitched a great game
But Hunter is the man!!!
SoCalWine - April 7, 2008
P-O-G
Give it to Reagins.
LA Seitz - April 7, 2008
OHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!!!
AAAAAAAWESOME!!! :D :D
scottnak - April 7, 2008
F-ROD!!
Can we all just admit that this is the beginning of the end?
Mix in a STRIKE damn it...........I am so tired of watching the asshole and elbows act know as Francisco Rodriguez try to locate any sort of pitch.
Don't give me the standard excuse that this is his first blown save and others have blown saves so far because this is once again only the beginning.
Nice numbers for the first 8 games
3.1 innings / 3 hits / 5 walks / 3 K's / 3 earned runs
I am sure F-Rod's knee is already better with Hunters walk off grand slam HR
Great outing for Saunders unbelievable day at the plate by Hunter he was Macho size
Angel Aviator - April 7, 2008
i'm too excited about Hunter's GS
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
BOTH of Frankie's ankles are injured. He's hurt: pitches are not executable in the usual fashion.
With two bad ankles, he's not able to generate the necessary torque to power his pitches. 90 mph fastball? I knew something was wrong, plus he didn't throw any of his trademark sliders. Give him a break; he's pitching hurt.
Fan Since 1981 - April 7, 2008
more like
give him a break; he's the best closer in baseball
angels4adam - April 7, 2008
false
ihearhowie2.0 - April 7, 2008
uhhhhh, NO!
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
ok, who then?
Career ERA+
Rivera - 195
Frankie - 187
Wagner - 180
Nathan - 147
Putz - 147
Hoffman - 145
Saves since 2005 -
Frankie - 135
Hoffman - 133
Nathan - 116
Wagner - 112
Rivera - 110
Putz - 78
Losses since 2005 -
Putz - 3
Nathan - 6
Wagner - 7
Frankie - 10
Rivera - 13
Hoffman - 15
Plus, 162 games won in a row when leading after 8 has to say something.
angels4adam - April 8, 2008
This confirms what I was thinking...
Joe Nathan is the best closer in baseball. If the Twins won more games, he'd probably have more saves than K-Rod.
Bottom line is this: If Frankie wants to be the best PAID closer in baseball, he should be the best closer in baseball. He is not.
I expect more of him because he expects more money. If he wasn't sp greedy, I wouldn't be as tough on him.
One of the best closers, but not THE best.
Angel Hawker - April 8, 2008
why are you worrying about money?
he pitches for the angels right now. he's playing now. why are you worrying about frankie's free agency? that won't happen until october, and then ALL teams will assess his value. if he's overpriced, then only fools will pay it. if he closes 40+ games again this year, then he's gonna want alot of money. that's not greed; that's market value.
yeswecan - April 8, 2008
Your Right...
I should be easier on K-Rod, it's probably the thought of losing him and the stupid contract crap that has me kind of bent out of shape.
Kind of like finding things wrong with a perfect girl...but without the goggles.
Angel Hawker - April 9, 2008
Nathan
problem there is that he is pretty old and Frankie is still quite young
Rev Halofan - April 8, 2008
Holy Crap!
That was amazing. The streak lives!
Until the 9th, Hokie Joe was the Panther.
red floyd - April 7, 2008
Yes!
good observation
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
What a roller coaster of a game
Lets get some runs earlier next time.
What a game for Torii. PANTHER all the way.
Erik121 - April 7, 2008
TORI!I!I!I!I!I!I!I!I!
Wow. Colonel Saunders. WOW TORII!!!
Very stoked on Saunders.
Anaheim of Anaheim - April 7, 2008
Nicely done!
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
Nice
Funke5ive - April 7, 2008
Post of the night.
Zu Long - April 7, 2008
classic!
could you photoshop in a drumstick in his throwing hand??
lightupthehalo - April 7, 2008
Finger lickin' good!
44FAN - April 7, 2008
I've got a feeling
that Fiddle Fartin' Frankie is buying a steak dinner for Torii and Saunders tomorrow. Nice job Torii!
Doctor Wu - April 7, 2008
He's too damn cheap!
More likely send him to the DL...
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
Exciting game!
44FAN - April 7, 2008
TORII TORII TORII
Plenty of love for Saunders and a tip of the cap to GMJ and GA for big walks in the ninth. Vlad will break out tomorrow - book it.
And hurry back Howie, you've got a batting crown to win.
Rusty Carew - April 7, 2008
AWESOME!
If this was a Yankee come from behind win ESPN would be talking about it for a week. LOL.
10 27 02 - April 7, 2008
saunders would've been panther
but the clutch comeback doesn't happen so often, so clearly Torii was PANTHER
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
Damn.
Damn, Damn, Damn.
As much as Saunders deserved that win, our offense needed that boost. Torii is more than worth that rediculous sum he's making, in every way.
And I think it's time we bid Frankie farewall. Let's start prepping Arredondo/Shields/Speier, and see who gets the role. Frankie was too dumb to admit the ankle injury at the end of last season, and that's pretty much unforgivable.
That said, I'm pumped, GO HALOS!
101halo - April 7, 2008
frankie = troy glaus
both great individual players
hittheg - April 7, 2008
I just want to say this to the Seattle guys forecasting doom
for our team despite the victory:
When the chips were down, and the team closer gave up the game at home due to injury, one team took it in rear, while the other knuckled up and won anyway. That's all I need to know about which team is better.
Zu Long - April 7, 2008
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
101halo - April 7, 2008
nicely put!
lightupthehalo - April 7, 2008
Torii...
You've just been invited to the league of clutch. What are you going to do now?
"I'm going to Disneyland!"
atung - April 7, 2008
for once, i feel like Hud
"that pumped me up!!!"
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
I REALLY Wished...
It was Hud in the booth announcing. Would've made it sooo much more excitin.
I just know it.
scottnak - April 7, 2008
he yelled "salami time"
or something like that on the radio braodcast.
SCHalo - April 8, 2008
TORA! TORA! TORA! baby.....Hunter fits the description
"Tiger" "Attack" "Thunder bolt"
acuda27 - April 7, 2008
Torii: More than a Panther. Call this one a Dragon.
The downside to this game was:
1) The injury to HK
2) The still injured Frankie. And lay off Frankie! The guy obviously is not physically sound. When he's healthy and on his game, he has command of his 94 mph fastball and unleashes a filthy lights out slider.
Fan Since 1981 - April 7, 2008
ok...then why is he out there?
give it a rest or get it fixed...it isn't going to get better playing on it!
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
Should we expect a placement on the 15-Day DL
within the next day or so with K-Rod?
PieceOfAase - April 7, 2008
if someone gets an injury update on HK
please post it
UCIHalo - April 7, 2008
Here you go
Link
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
cheers
UCIHalo - April 7, 2008
Wow
Most amazing game I have ever been too
The whole bottom of the 9th was just beyond incredible
edhoo - April 7, 2008
Props on sticking it out.
There are a lot of people who would have left.
Zu Long - April 7, 2008
Yeah
I'd never leave just because of the odd chance of seeing that
It was just amazing
edhoo - April 7, 2008
And a LOT who DID leave...
I told those early deserters "better luck next time, but remember, there are 27 outs in a game..."
I don't think the ones that heard me will ever leave early again. I used to have leaving early FORCED on me when I was a child, hence, I never EVER think of leaving early.
I'd estimate that 60% of the crowd was gone by the time Torii did his magic.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
It was funny to watch the parking lot.
You could see the flow of cars heading off the lot grow stronger and stronger as folks got up and left in the top of the 9th. By the time the bases were loaded, the exits were totally empty. I had visions of people sitting out in the lot in their cars listening on the radio, debating whether or not to dash back inside. Oops! Too late!
Imagine their feeling as they sat there, engine idling, watching the fireworks exploding over center field. Their only consolation was that they were now at the front of the line to leave. Yeah. That is probably why they bought their ticket in the first place. So they could be the first to leave.
Stirrups - April 10, 2008
You sir,
are a lucky man.
scottnak - April 7, 2008
After...
Frankie gets off the DL, showcase him and trade his ass. Some desperate fringe contender will overpay at the deadline to rent him for a few months. This guy has no clue how good he has it as an Angel. Let him earn his money the hard way -- without being coddled by a nurturing organization.
Chris Knapp's Sac - April 7, 2008
you're out of your mind
how many other closers out there can produce like frankie has?
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
To me...he looks like he has gained a few inches in the bartolo line
and can't bring the fastball like he used to...27 years old...looks to me like he let it go to his head...or waist!
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
Frankie isn't staying. This is just a smart move
As much as I'd hate to see him go, give Shields or Speier the 9th inning role. Oliver, Shields, Speier is a nice 7/8/9. Frankie is clearly not worth what he's asking.
101halo - April 7, 2008
no reason to deal frankie
he's one of the best closers in baseball. let him prove his worth this season.
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
Joe Borrowski = Frankie
Frankie is not worth the drama nor the Arte's $15m
SoCalWine - April 7, 2008
well, joe borowski for one
i think i see a lot of todd jones in 2007-2008 frankie as well.
if you look at frankie in a vacuum of the past 30 appearances, hes absolutely not one of the more dominant closers in the league
ihearhowie2.0 - April 7, 2008
Are you sure?
Frankie right now is not dominant due to health issues, but:
In Sept.2007: 11 games, 10.2 innings, 2.53 ERA, 17Ks (14.3K per 9), opponents BA/OBP/SLG of .184/.304/.368 (7 saves)
In Aug.2007: 12 games, 13 innings, 3.46 ERA, 14Ks (9.7K per 9), opponents BA/OBP/SLG of .200/.310/.300 (8 saves)
He was actually doing quite well.
Fan Since 1981 - April 7, 2008
I would call those numbers good
but not dominant. Frankie wants "dominant" $!
K3YEROUT - April 8, 2008
I'm not saying...but
From the AP story:
Riverrun - April 7, 2008
I was thinking the same thing.
101halo - April 7, 2008
That was Torii's tenth career grand slam I think they said.
44FAN - April 7, 2008
wow
Funke5ive - April 7, 2008
2002...
*.*
scottnak - April 7, 2008
By the way
Say what you want about K-Rod being bad tonight, but I'll point out that this is the 162nd CONSECUTIVE game we have won after leading after the 8th inning. Now part of that is just Rally Monkey badassery (like tonight), but a big part of that is K-Rod. He is legitimately one of the best closers in baseball.
Zu Long - April 7, 2008
PREACH
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
The fans at Let's Go Tribe
having nothing nice to say about the rally monkey!
44FAN - April 7, 2008
Torii does
It looks like he was serious when he said that he and the Rally Monkey were going to be good friends.
TheTypingFiend - April 7, 2008
I love how everyone hates the monkey.
Funke5ive - April 7, 2008
I want
to change my username to RallyMonkeyBadassery!!
lightupthehalo - April 7, 2008
That pic of Saunders above is priceless!
He was Panther tonight...as was Hunter! That was cool to watch! Glad I saw it...wish I was there! Can't put a price on what the Colonel is doing right now! That is money! Joe is steppin' up and I'm out...$$$$$$$$$$
K3YEROUT - April 7, 2008
that post about the whole 2002 season just gave me goose bumps....could it be magic in the air ala 08???
Halofanatic - April 7, 2008
kudos to Frankie
for all he's done IN THE PAST, but his shelf life is about to pass its expiration date, and that's a combination of the money he's asking for and the injuries that are starting to creep up. Given his violent delivery, it's not a matter of if, but when he blows himself out. As good as he's been, closers are always overrated. And how many cold sweat/heart attacks do you want to have watching Frankie walk the first two guys, bounce a slider in the dirt, and survive by the skin of his teeth.
Chris Knapp's Sac - April 7, 2008
"expiration date"?
i think a closer has to blow considerably more than one save in order to call for his demise. he's recorded 40+ saves in the last 3 seasons and he has one of the best records among any closers in the game today. who's going to close for the angels, if not him??? not many.
yeswecan - April 7, 2008
Get off his TIP!
Angel Aviator - April 7, 2008
I'll get on it then...
THE GUY PLAYED HURT. Yes, it was dumb for him to go out there hurt, but he wanted to be a gamer. Give him a BREAK! Frankie is a STUD and will produce more saves this year once he is healthy.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
frankie
the thing thats most troubling is he should know his body more than anyone and if his ankles were hurting, why would he allow himself to come in against the meat of their order with such a slim lead? he risked it, blew it and took a once a season-type miracle to save HIM.
frankie wants saves to pump his next contract, he doesnt give a shit about this team
ihearhowie2.0 - April 7, 2008
I Like Frankie
I just get sooooo tired of him walking batters instead of asserting himself as a dominate closer.
Doctor Wu - April 7, 2008
Saunders ate his Wheaties
Torii was Panther!!!!!!!!!!! (thank you reagins)
Frankie proves he is Human. (or mad he lost arbitration)
HK47 is hurt again. (damn)
Vladdy showed a little plate dicipline. (wow)
Napp threw out a runner. (it's about time)
THE HALO IS BRIGHT TONIGHT
Funke5ive - April 7, 2008
Frankie = injured.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
My fantasy team includes:
K-Rod (dammit)
Borowski (dammit)
and...
TORII HUNTER (YESSS!!!)
Of Angels and Angles - April 7, 2008
MIssus Halofan and I were at the Game
And it was the game to be at.
Rev Halofan - April 7, 2008
You lucky man!
AHHHH. Lucky lucky lucky
scottnak - April 7, 2008
id imagine
quite a few #48's were walking out the gates after that one
ihearhowie2.0 - April 7, 2008
Toriid, baby.
Back from the game too. Watchin' the tivo. Play. Smile. Pause. Rewind. Play. Smile. Pause. Rewind...
Stirrups - April 7, 2008
I forgot to record =(
edhoo - April 7, 2008
TORIId...
...nice
hope to see some signs like that at the big A
hittheg - April 7, 2008
i thought he got under it when he first hit it...
then i saw the fielder start running for the wall and i lost my voice yelling in celebration :D
joeyz34 - April 8, 2008
I thought it was going foul
Then again my eyesight isn't to good
edhoo - April 8, 2008
No doubter from F107!
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
bigeasyhalofan
next time i'm in NO i'll take a big ass beer on bourbon street
hittheg - April 8, 2008
You got it
Gotta love the $3 "Huge Ass Beers to Go" they have down there...and a small price to pay for a walk-off salami.
Big Easy Halofan - April 8, 2008
Halo Hunter
The guy could seriously strikeout in every at-bat for the rest of the year and I wouldn't care. What he did tonight was so many levels of awesome that words cannot explain the magnitude of what transpired. He was worth every penny based off of tonight alone. And yet Scioscia will repeatedly bat him behind Anderson for the rest of the year. Maybe it's pissing Hunter off that Anderson is hitting in front of him that he's taking it out on the rest of baseball. So be it. I'm loving it.
WeaverMania - April 8, 2008
Frankie
Every time K-Rod gets a save, I'll be savoring it for all the haters who thinks he's lost it.
It is one game and it seems like everyone in the Angels' bullpen but K-Rod gets to have a 'get out Angels' fans wrath' card, especially if they are Scot Shields [who is overpaid] or Justin Speier [who really is overpaid].
BBFan1 - April 8, 2008
i'm with you
but Frankie is hurt and needs to get those ankles healed so he can be the K-Rod everyone's been defending. we need that guy healthy, bottomline.
SCHalo - April 8, 2008
Dual Panthers for BBFan and SCHalo...
you guys are right on track.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
Are You FUCKING Kidding Me?
As the game went to the bottom of the 9th, my wife & I were finishing dinner & went to sit down in the den. Her stipulation: only if we watch something other than baseball. Given the state of affairs, I acquiesced and we watched a movie. So, I just checked in here to see what "LOSE" picture was posted, and to go off on a rant about why K-Rod belongs on the DL (he does), and I see the improbable "WIN" picture. What the fuck? Yeah, I'm using a season's worth of F-bombs here (hey, this is mild compared to how they're going over at Lookout Landing, but I digress).
So, now I'm going to have to TiVo the replay. Geez.
By the way, Saunders pitched a heck of a game against a far more daunting offense than Minnesota's.
jjackflash - April 8, 2008
Can you do me a favor and turn off the critical junctures of games
for the REST OF THE SEASON?
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
Well
the thing is, technically, I didn't turn it off (the TV was still on, and it was still tuned to the game; it's just that we were watching a DVD instead.
I'm famous for this, though. I was at the game last year when Figgins went 6-6, including that game-winning hit (I think it was a triple). I left, though, when the warmed over corpse of Hector Carrasco was busy hemorrhaging runs. The Angels scored the winning run as I pulled into my driveway. And that wasn't the first time I'd left a game too early (I left a game in 2006 when AK came up with a game-winning hit as I was headed north on the 5, just passing the 91 interchange).
I've vowed never to leave early again. Although if Arte wants to buy me a season seat that I can leave early, I'd consider it...for the good of the team, of course!
jjackflash - April 8, 2008
K-
jjackflash - April 8, 2008
K-Rod Is Injured
I'm not mad about his blowing the save; that happens. The problem is, he's injured. Right now, it's his ankles...both of them. Soon enough, though, it will be his shoulder or elbow. That's what happens when pitchers try to alter their mechanics (as he has admittedly done) when trying to deal with an injury to the lower half of the body, be it the hip, knee or ankle. If he doesn't take some time off, he'll suffer an arm injury. That (and the steroids) is what did in Eric Gagne. He tried to pitch with a bum knee, and blew out his elbow while trying not to land so hard. That's exactly what's going to happen to Frankie. At best, he'll pitch ineffectively; at worst, major arm injury.
jjackflash - April 8, 2008
During his warmups on the mound...
I could see that he was gingerly pushing off his right foot. It was obvious from where I was sitting. No power at all in the warm-ups and that translated to his performance.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
re: dizzy dean
hittheg - April 11, 2008
ugh
of course i had to work all night, so i'm begging for highlights
NoDakHalo - April 8, 2008
MLB Gameday
now has key moments right in its play-by-bplay check it out.
scottnak - April 8, 2008
LA Times Reiterates Key Points
Today’s LA Times article "Rodriguez's ankles are a source of concern" is echoing my sentiments that I stated last night. The quotes below are taken directly from the article:
"The closer's ankles, which are both sprained, heavily taped, and, in the words of Manager Mike Scioscia, a cause for ‘concern’."
"I couldn't get any balance on my back leg, and I was using all arm, not pushing off the rubber with my leg," Rodriguez said. "I couldn't locate my fastball. I had no power in my legs."
"His fastball, normally about 94 mph, has hovered around 91 mph, and his usually nasty slider hasn't been that sharp."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-angrep8apr08,1,7309318.story
Fan Since 1981 - April 8, 2008
All Arm
Means if he doesn't take the time off for his ankles now, he'll have plenty of time to stay off his feet fairly soon while he undergoes Tommy John surgery for his elbow.
jjackflash - April 8, 2008
He has gotta do what is best for the team and take time off
They can't risk the uncertainty of this ankle issue.
Erik121 - April 8, 2008
You know...
Right after that game, FSN did a little promo for the next game and said, "Watch Torri Hunter and the Angels take on the Indians..."
Step aside, Vladdy? Very interesting. Perhaps this will generate a bit of a slugging competition between the two. ESPN still won't acknowledge it.
Hutch83 - April 8, 2008
Torii Hunter was brought in...
to be the face of the franchise, IMO. The guy has such a great personality and amazing on-field performance. He is a very marketable figure and will help further promote the Angels Baseball product.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
What about
a light hearted public "competition" between him and Vlad created by the media a la Maris and Mantle (on a much smaller scale of course)? I think that's quite marketable to fans as well, even if it never really exists in the club house.
Hutch83 - April 8, 2008
"tastes great" vs "less filling" , eh?
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
I'll start making th e T-shirts
Hutch83 - April 8, 2008
I was amazed it took this long for someone to post that
In the same thread we're bragging about having the record of not losing games when leading after 8, we have short term minded morons talking about getting rid of Frankie. A lead after 8, who do you think is responsible for savings almost all of those leads? My God.
thewebb - April 8, 2008
ooops
this should have been under Zu Long's post above.
thewebb - April 8, 2008
Games like this make baseball fans for life.
Versolt - April 8, 2008
I'm not a hater
I just think Frankie's not worth the $15 million he's asking for. I'm sure he'll get his share of saves, and that's great. We're all on the same page. But watching him, he's like a ticking time bomb. And for whatever reason, I sense he doesn't bleed Halo red. He's a mercenary (I say that based on his spring training comments). So good riddance. And if Spier and Shields are overpaid, let's make 'em closers so that can earn their money.
Chris Knapp's Sac - April 8, 2008
Yeswecan...
great "Football Configuration" shot of the stadium in the win pic. There was also a great shot of that configuration in the Register today showing Gene and Jackie inside the stadium (probably to discuss Gene's new "star" he got from the city of Anaheim). Always loved those Marlboro ads near the long scoreboards (although I don't smoke). What an atrocious yet glorious place it was to watch the team in the 80's...ahh, the memories.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
i agree with you
props, however, go to the Rev for all the win/lose pics.
yeswecan - April 8, 2008
Frankie blew six saves last season
but the angels came back to win each of them.
Funke5ive - April 8, 2008
Not Dominant
Look, I know Frankie is our guy, right now. He has put up some great numbers over his career since he came up, no argument.
A couple of years ago, Angel games were 7 inning affairs because Shields and Frankie were lights out. You just knew the game was over. Same thing for the Yankees and Rivera, Red Sux and Papelbon, Dodgers and Gagne (when he was on the juice).
My problem is that Frankie still believes he is that guy and wants to be paid as that guy. He isn't that guy any more. I am getting to the point that I would rather have a tired starter attempt to complete a close game than turn it over the Frankie.
A couple of games ago, YesWeCan tried to give Frankie POG instead of Ervin. A number of us convinced him to change. Now I am wondering if that might have been Frankie's only chance (ok, I am kidding here).
My point here is we all want that 'game over' Frankie, not the 2007 1.248 WHIP or worse the 2008 2.4 WHIP (granted 2008 is small sample size).
SoCalWine - April 8, 2008
Double Play Summary...
The Angels are not leading the league...Minnesoter has that distinction.
Angels 12DP's
ARZ 2
ATL 6
BAL 6
BOS 9
CHC 6
CWS 8
CIN 7
CLE 3
COL 7
DET 12
FLA 4
HOU 5
KC 0
LAD 5
MIL 3
MIN 13
NYM 4
NYY 5
OAK 3
PHI 6
PIT 3
SD 4
SF 7
SEA 4
STL 5
TB 3
TEX 5
TOR 8
WSH 6
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
Turned or hit into?
SoCalWine - April 8, 2008
GIDP. thanks.
Downing Rules - April 8, 2008
Infield has turned 8 DPs and one Strike-em-out-throw-em-out
SoCalWine - April 8, 2008
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