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Don't be a contrarian and pick someone besides the Angels.
And don't be a conformist and pick the Mets

NLW: Padres/Dodgers/Giants/D-Backs/Rockies
NLC: Astros/Brewers/Cards/Reds/Cubs/Pirates
NLE: Phillies/Mets/Marlins/Braves/Expos
WC: Mets
PENNANT: Phillies

ALW: Anges/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: White Sox/Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels sweep Philly

Thanks to Matt Welch's WarBlog for the headslapping Why Didn't I Think of That inspiration...

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why am i awake
NLW: Padres/Dodgers/D-Backs/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Brewers/Cubs/Cards/Astros/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Expos
WC: Phillies
PENNANT: Phillies

ALW: Angels/A's/Rangers/M's
ALC: Tigers/Cleveland/Twins/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Blue Jays/Yankees/Red Sox/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Cleveland
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Philly in 6

My picks
NLW: Dodgers/D-Backs/Padres/Rockies/Giants
NLC: Cards/Cubs/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Nats
WC: Cubs
PENNANT: Cubs

ALW: Angels/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: Tigers/Twins/Cleveland/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Yankees/Blue Jays/Red Sox/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Cubs in 5

Here you go...
NLW: Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Cards/Cubs/Brewers/Astros/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Braves/Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Expos
WC: Cubs
PENNANT: Padres

ALW: Angels/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: Tigers/Twins/Cleveland/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Twins
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels in 5

Angels all the way baby
NLW:  D-Backs/Dodgers/Padres/Giants/Rockies
NLC:  Cubs/Astros/Cards/Brewers/Reds/Pirates
NLE:  Braves/Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Nationals
WC:  Mets
Pennant:  D-Backs

ALW:  Angels/M's/Rangers/A's
ALC:  Indians/Twins/White Sox/Tigers/Royals
ALE:  Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/D-Rays/Orioles
WC:  Twins
Pennant:  Angels
Angels in 6

go halos
NLW:  Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Rockies/Giants
NLC:  Astros/Cards/Brewers/Cubs/Reds/Pirates
NLE:  Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nationals
WC:  Cards
Pennant:  Mets (sorry, but it's true)

ALW:  Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners
ALC:  Twins/White Sox/Tigers/Indians/Royals
ALE:  Yankees/Blue Jays/Red Sox/D-Rays/Orioles
WC:  Blue Jays
Pennant:  Angels
Angels sweep

Prove me wrong guys!
NLW:  Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NLC:  Cubs/Brewers/Astros/Cards/Reds/Pirates
NLE:  Phillies/Mets/Braves/Marlins/Nationals
WC:   Mets
Pennant:  Phillies

ALW:  Angels/Rangers/A's/Mariners
ALC:  Tigers/Indians/White Sox/Royals
ALE:  Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/D-Rays/Orioles
WC:  Indians
Pennant:  Red Sox
Red Sox in 5

Mine
AL East

Red Sox/Yanks/Jays/O's/Rays

AL Central
Tigers/White Sox/Indians/Twins/Royals

AL West
Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners

NL East
Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nats

NL Central
Cubs/Cards/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Pirates

NL West
Padres/Dodgers/Giants/DBacks/Rockies

Playoffs

Red Sox over Angels
Yanks over Tigers
Red Soc over Yanks

Phillies over Cubs
Mets over Padres
Mets over Phillies

WS
Red Sox over Mets in 7.

mine
Al East
Red Sox-Jays-Yanks
AL Central
Indians-Tigers- White Sox
AL West
Angels - Oak- Tex

Tigers get the Wild Card

NLEast
Braves - Phillies - Mets
NL Central
Cards- Mil- Reds
NL West
Ariz- Dodgers- SD

Phillies get the Wild Card

ALCS
Angels Vs Red Sox
NLCS
Phillies VS Ariz

World Series
Red Sox VS Phillies
winner = Phillies in 6 games

Also watch out for the Indians if their pitching is good

Read'm and Weep
NLW: Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Cubs/Astros/Brewers/Cards/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Braves/Phillies/Marlins/Expos
WC: Braves
PENNANT: Mets

ALW: Anges/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: White Sox/Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels

thanks to the War Blog

Royal gain
ALW Angels/M's/A's/Rangers
ALC Twins/Tigers/Royals/WhiteSox/Indians
ALE BlueJays/RedSox/Yankees/O's/Rays
WC RedSox
Pennant Angels
WS Angels in 5
NLE Phillies/Mets/Braves/Marlins/Nats
NLC Brewers/Cards/Cubs/Astros/Pirates
NLW D-Backs/Fathers/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
WC Cards
Pennant D-Backs
Halos 2007 World Champions or bust!
AL West:  Angels, Mariners, Athletics, Rangers
AL Central:  Tigers, Indians, Twins, White Sox, Royals
AL East:  Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Devil Rays, Orioles
WC:  Indians
Pennant:  Angels

NL West:  Padres, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Giants, Rockies
NL Central:  Cardinals, Brewers, Astros, Cubs, Pirates, Reds
NL East:  Mets, Marlins, Braves, Phillies, Nationals
WC:  Marlins
Pennant:  Marlins

World Series:  Angels over Marlins in 6 games
AL MVP:  Vladimir Guerrero
NL MVP:  Miguel Cabrera
AL CYA:  John Lackey
NL CYA:  Dontrelle Willis
AL Manager of Year:  Mike Scioscia
NL Manager of Year:  Bud Black

Picks
NLW Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NLC Cubs/Brewers/Cardinals/Astros/Pirates/Reds
NLE Phillies/Mets/Braves/Marlins/Nationals
WC D-Backs
Pennant Padres

ALW Angels/Rangers/A's/Mariners
ALC Indians/Twins/Tigers/White Sox/Royals
ALE Yankees/Red Sox/Blue Jays/Orioles/D-Rays
WC Red Sox
Pennant Angels

WS Angels over Padres in 7

Pics
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/D-Backs/Giants/Rockies- Youth movement continues to mature in LA.  Another good year from No-ma.

NLC: Brewers/Astros/Cubs/Cardinals/Reds/Pirates- Big drop off in this division last couple of years. Cubs could move up with decent pitching, but I'm picking the Brewers based on my lack of knowing what the hell's gonna happen.

NLE: Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nats- I would have liked the Marlins as a possible wildcard if Girardi weren't fired.

WC: Phillies

PENNANT: Phillies

ALW: Angels/Rangers/A's/M's- Dogfight between Texas and Oakland for second, but the Angels pull away in September.

ALC: Tigers/Twins/Indians/ChiSox/Royals- Better offense than last year for the Tigers.  What happened to Chicago's starters?

ALE: BoSox/Yankees//Blue Jays/DevilRays/Orioles

WC: Twins

PENNANT: Angels

WORLD SERIES: Angels in 6.

here a pick, there a pick
NLW: Padres/D-Backs/Giants/Dodgers/Rockies
NLC: Cubs*/Cards/Brewers/Reds/Astros/Pirates
NLE: Phillies/Mets/Marlins/Braves/Expos
WC: Cubs*
PENNANT: Cubs*

ALW: Anges/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: White Sox/Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels (no-brainer)

*purely wishful thinking for the hubby & Helen

The pickaroos...
NLW: D-Backs/Padres/Rockies/Giants/Dodgers
NLC: Cardinals/Cubs/Astros/Brewers/Pirates/Reds
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nats
WC: Phillies
PENNANT: D-Backs

ALW: Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners
ALC: Indians/Twins/White Sox/Tigers/Royals
ALE: Yankees/Red Sox/Blue Jays/Orioles/D-Rays
WC: Twins
PENNANT: Angels

WORLD SERIES: Angels

everywhere a pick pick
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Giants/Diamondbacks/Rockies
NLC: Brewers/Cubs/Cards/Astros/Pirates/Reds
NLE: Mets/Braves/Phillies/Marelins/Nats
WC:  Cubs
PENNANT: Mets

ALW: Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners
ALC: Indians/Twins/Tigers/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Yankees/Red Sox/Orioles/Blue Jays/D-Rays
WC:  Red Sox
PENNANT: Angels
WS:  Angels

Picking something besides my nose
NLW: Dodgers/D-Backs/Padres/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Reds/Astros/Cubs/Cards/Brewers/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Expos
WC: Phillies
PENNANT: Reds

ALW: Anges/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: Twins/White Sox/Tigers/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/Orioles/D-Rays
WC: White Sox
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels beat Reds in 6

picks (i hope i'm totally wrong).
[b]NLW:[/b] Dodgers/D-Backs/Rockies/Padres/Giants
[b]NLC:[/b] Cards/Brewers/Cubs/Reds/Astros/Pirates
[b]NLE:[/b] Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Nats
[b]WC:[/b] Phillies
[b]PENNANT:[/b] Mets

[b]ALW:[/b] Angels/A's/Rangers/M's
[b]ALC:[/b] Twins/Cleveland/Tigers/White Sox/Royals
[b]ALE:[/b] Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/Orioles/D-Rays
[b]WC:[/b] Yankees
[b]PENNANT:[/b] Red Sox
[b]WORLD SERIES (head):[/b] Mets beat Red Sox in 6
[b]WORLD SERIES (heart):[/b] Halos beat Mets in 7

code.
sucks.  a little help?
Use *'s
(star)hello(star) = star
Err...
The bolded stuff should've said hello. But I hope it made sense. Haha.
or
you use <>  <>

BOLD

Carnac the Magnificent
I'm wearing Johnny Carson's big fortune telling hat right now.

NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Giants/D-Backs/Rockies
NLC: Cubs/Cards/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Expos
WC: Phillies
PENNANT: Dodgers

ALW: Anges/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: Twins/Tigers/WhiteSox/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Orioles/D-Rays
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels sweep the Dodgers... riots tear down Chavez Crap-hole!

holding an envelope to my forehead Carnac style
Lederhosen. Funyuns. And Charles Hamilton, the 5th Earl of Abercorn.

NLw SD LA SF AR CO
NLc CHI STL HOU MIL CIN PIT
NLe NYM ATL PHI FLA WAS

ALw LAA OAK TEX SEA
ALc DET MIN CLE CHI KC
ALe TOR BOS NYY TB BAL

NLwc STL
ALwc BOS

WS Angels over Cubs in 7

Don't take my Johnny Carson joke
there's a fine line between theft and homage
i'll take a stab
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Giants/D-Backs/Rockies
NLC: Astros/Reds/Brewers/Cubs/Cards/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nats
WC: Reds
PENNANT: Mets

ALW: Anges/A's/Rangers/M's
ALC: Twins/Cleveland/Tigers/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Cleveland
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Mets in 6

This will be impossible...
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Diamondbacks/Rockies/Giants
NLC: Astros/Cubs/Cardinals/Brewers/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Braves/Phillies/Marlins/Nats
WC: Cubs
PENNANT: Dodgers

ALW: Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners
ALC: Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Yankees/Blue Jays/Orioles/Devil Rays
WC: Yankees
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over the Dodgers in 6 (thanks SI.com!)

Yeah yeah..
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Giants/D-Backs/Rockies
NLC: Cards/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Cubs/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Expos
WC: Padres
PENNANT: Mets

ALW: Anges/A's/Rangers/M's
ALC: Tigers/Twins/White Sox/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Yankees/Red Sox/Blue Jays/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Red Sox
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Mets in 7

2007 Capsule MLB Final Standings
NL West:

  • Dodgers

  • Padres

  • D-Backs

  • Giants

  • Rockies


NL Central:

  • Brewers

  • Cards

  • Astros

  • Reds

  • Cubs

  • Pirates


NL East:

  • Mets

  • Phillies

  • Braves

  • Marlins

  • gNats


NL Wild Card: Cardinals

NL PENNANT: Dodgers

AL West:


  • Angels

  • A's

  • Rangers

  • M's


AL Central:

  • Tigers

  • Indians

  • Twins

  • White Sox

  • Royals


AL East:

  • Red Sox

  • Yankees

  • Blue Jays

  • Orioles

  • D-Rays


AL Wild Card: A's

AL PENNANT: Angels

WORLD SERIES: Angels in 6

Predictions
AL East: Yanks-Jays-Sox-Rays-Orioles
AL Central: Tigers-Sox-Indians-Twinkies-Royals
AL West: Angels-A's-Rangers-Mariners
AL WC: White Sox

NL East: Phils-Braves-Mets-Marlins-Nats
NL Central: Cards-Brewers-Cubs-Astros-Reds-Pirates
NL West: Padres-Dodgers-Rockies-DBacks-Giants
NL WC: Brews

AL Pennant: Angels (Doug Eddings stays away)
NL Pennant: Brewers

World Series: Angels over Brewers in 5

first time I've ever done one of these...
NL
West: Dodgers/Padres/Diamondbacks/Giants/Rockies
Central: Cubs/Cardinals/Brewers/Astros/Reds/Pirates
East: Phillies/Braves/Mets/Marlins/Nationals
WC: Braves

NL Pennant: Dodgers

AL
West: Angels/A's/Rangers/Mariners
Central: Tigers/Indians/White Sox/Twins/Royals
East: Yankees/Red Sox/Blue Jays/Orioles/Devil Rays
WC: Red Sox

AL Pennant: Tigers (I'd like to say Angels, but I'm just a total pessimist)

WS: Tigers in 5

This is our Year!:
AL
West: Angels/A's/Rangers/M's
Central: Tigers/Indians/ChiSox/Twins/Royals
East: NY/Bost/Tor/TB/Toronto
WC: Cleveland

Pennant: LAA

NL
West: LAD/DBacks/SD/SF/COL
Central: StL/Milw/Chic/Hous/Cinc/Pitt
East: NYM/Flor/Phil/Atl/Mtl
WC: Mil

Pennant: Mets

WS: Angels in 7!!

Get it done!

W00t
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Giants/D-Backs/Rockies
NLC: Cards/Astros/Reds/Brewers/Cubs/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Braves/Phillies/Marlins/Nationals
WC: Padres
PENNANT: Mets

ALW: Anges/A's/M's/Rangers
ALC: Tigers/Twins/Cleveland/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Yankees/Blue Jays/Red Sox/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels in 7

My Best Guesses
Well, not really, because to be honest I really haven't paid much attention to any team except the Angels (and to a lesser degree, the Dodgers and Cincinnati Reds).  But, whatever.

Senior Circuit
West: (1) Dodgers; (2) Padres; (3) D-backs; (4) Rockies; (5) Giants

Central: (1) Astros; (2) Brewers; (3) Reds; (4) Cardinals; (5) Pirates; (6) Cubs

East: (1) Marlins; (2) Phillies; (3) Mets; (4) Braves; (5) Nationals

Pennant: Phillies

Superior Circuit
West: (1) ANGELS; (2) A's; (3) Rangers; (4) Mariners

Central: (1) Indians; (2) Tigers; (3) Twins; (4) White Sox; (5) Royals

East: (1) Red Sox; (2) Blue Jays; (3) Yankees; (4) Devil Rays; (5) Orioles

Pennant: ANGELS

Wild Cards in italics.

2007 World Series Champion: Los Angeles ANGELS of Anaheim.

Amerie
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Rockies/D-Backs/Giants
NLC: Cards/Cubs/Brewers/Reds/Astros/Pirates
NLE: Phillies/Marlins/Mets/Braves/Expos
WC: Marlins
PENNANT: Marlins

ALW: Anges/M's/Rangers/A's
ALC: Twins/Royals/White Sox/Tigers/Cleveland
ALE: Yankees/Red Sox/D-Rays/Blue Jays/Orioles
WC: Royals
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Marlins in 5

I like the Royals chances this year...I have a feeling they are going to surprize everyone. And the A's lost to the M's so this season should be a breeze for us since the M's are no longer the A's bitches.

predictions
NLW: Padres/D-Backs/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Cards/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Cubs/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Phillies/Marlins/Braves/Nats
WC: D-Backs
PENNANT: Cards

ALW: Angels/M's/Rangers/A's
ALC: White Sox/Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/D-Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels over Cards in 5

this will be a great season of baseball
NLW: Dodgers/Padres/Diamondbacks/Giants/Rockies
NLC: Cards/Astros/Brewers/Reds/Pirates
NLE: Mets/Braves/Phillies/Marlins/Nats
WC: Astros
PENNANT: Dodgers

ALW: Angels/Rangers/A's/Mariners
ALC: Twins/Tigers/Cleveland/White Sox/Royals
ALE: Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Orioles/Devil Rays
WC: Tigers
PENNANT: Angels
WORLD SERIES: Angels SWEEP Dodgers

My Picks
NLW: Padres/Diamondbacks/Dodgers/Rockies/Giants
NLC: Cards/Astros/Reds/Brewers/Pirates
NLE: Braves/Mets/Marlins/Phillies/Nationals
WC: Mets
Pennant: Mets

ALW: Angels/Rangers/A's/M's
ALC: Indians/Twins/Tigers/Sox/Royals
ALE: BoSox/Jays/Yanks/O's/DRays
WC: Twins
Pennant: Angels

WS: Angels over Mets in 6

What about the cubs?
I was debating where exactly to put Chicago, and ended up leaving them off my picks. They'll finish behind the Reds for fourth in the NL Central.
I'll write Angels cause he says I have tp
NLW: Rockies/Dodgers/Padres/Diamondbacks/Giants
NLC: Reds/Brewers/Pirates/Cards/Astros/
NLE: Phillies/Braves/Mets/Marlins/Nationals
WC: Mets
Pennant: Dodgers

ALW: Angels/M's/A's/Rangers
ALC: Tigers/Indians/Twins/Sox/Royals
ALE: Yanks/Jays/O's/BoSox/DRays
WC: Angels
Pennant: Yanks  
NLW: Dodgers/Rockies/Giants/Padres/Diamondbacks/
NLC: Reds/Brewers/Pirates/Cards/Astros/
NLE: Braves/Mets/Marlins/Phillies/Nationals
WC: Mets
Pennant: Mets

ALW: Angels/M's/Rangers/A's
ALC: Tigers/Indians/Twins/Sox/Royals
ALE: Jays/Yanks/O's/BoSox/DRays
WC: Angels
Pennant: Yanks

you're all wrong...
the correct order is as follows

NL, AAAA: Who the hell cares? They're going to lose to the Angels. Probably the Dodgers or Mets or some other fruity club. (and I'll whisper a quiet "Go Buddy Black!", but I'll deny showing any excitement for NL ball in public)

ALW: 1. Our hallowed halos, the Angels

  1. Some crappy Texas team that for some reason plays in the AL west
  2. Another even crappier AL west team with an Asian guy in Center
  3. Hyphy A's of Fremont(0-162)
ALC: 1. Santana will pitch for the club as an ace, then pitch in slots 3, 4 and 5. He will be too tired to pitch in the playoffs and will sleep right through them
  1. Doug Eddings' feet kissers
  2. walking cancerous lung, Leyland
  3. Hafner aaaand that's about it
5.the Royals (they don't deserve any more insulting)
ALE: 1. ESPN's man-boner team #1
  1. East Coast team bias #2
  2. An unhappy John Gibbons
  3. An improving Joe Maddon club on which I wish nothing but huge heaping piles of stinky, sweaty success
  4. A bunch of dirty birds; durrrtay duurtay
WC: Gotta go with the sawks
PENNANT: Angels. Period.
WORLD SERIES: Angels sweep NL and laugh at their pathetic excuse of an offering for the fall classic.

Vlad dances, all will rejoice. There will be merriment.

Even This Pirates Fan...
...is picking the Angels to win it all.

AL West: LAAA > OAK > TEX > SEA
AL Central: DET > CLE > MIN > CWS > KC
AL East: BOS > TOR > NYY > TB > BAL
WC: CLE
Pennant: LAAA

NL West: ARI > LAD > SD > COL > SF
NL Central: STL > MIL > CHC > HOU > PIT > CIN
NL East: PHI > NYM > ATL > FLA > WAS
WC: NYM
Pennant: ARI

World Series: LAAA over ARI in 7 (If I wasn't such a big fan of watching Game 7's, I'd probably say the Angels in 5).

Late Coming Picks:
NL West: Padres/Diamondbacks/Dodgers/Giants/Rockies
NL Central: Brewers/Cubs/Cardinals/Astros/Reds/Pirates
NL East: Mets/Phillies/Braves/Marlins/Nationals
WC: Cubs
Pennant: Mets

AL West: Angels/Athletics/Rangers/Mariners
AL Central: Indians/Twins/Tigers/White Sox/Royals
AL East: Yankees/Blue Jays/Red Sox/Devil Rays/Orioles
WC: Blue Jays
Pennant: Blue Jays

World Series: Mets over Blue Jays in 6.  And this scenario is my "dark horse" scenario, so take it with a grain of salt and don't consider it entirely legit.

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