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Game Thread - Angels at Athletics - Escobar versus Loaiza - 7:05 p.m.

Star-divide

Drunk driving is a worse offense than steroids, but I am glad that the Oakland Amorals did not suspend this waste of a pitcher.

Intentionally Altered Movie Dialogue:
Adrian: Einstein flunked out of school, twice.
Paulie: Is that so?
Adrian: Yeah. Beethoven was deaf. Helen Keller was blind. I think Napoli's got a good chance.

Did you know that the A's are the only team in baseball to suffer injuries this season and not perform up to their expected capabilities? Really!

Beat My Runs and Hits Picks: LAA: 11, 14 ... OAK: 3, 5

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I wanted it noted for the record
Earlier today, when people were running down Colon, I said this...

I'm not sure you can stick a fork in Colon yet
I1) the fork could sink deep into his body and you'll never retrieve it.

(2) He's got his control, it's just a question of getting his velocity back up.  I don't the Angels would be putting him out there every 5th day if they didn't think it was going to come back.

(3) Not having his plus fastball makes him extremely hittable because the batters don't have to worry about his best pitch, but the more his fastball's velocity comes up, he'll get closer and closer the Colon of 2005.

People have to remember, throwing high 90s, you've got to be strong, and his being out has taken that away, but not necassarily forever.  The next month is crucial.  He doesn't have to get back to 2005 Colon immediately, but if the number on the radar gun starts ticking back up, he's on his way and may be back to his old self in the late summer and the playoffs, and it's always handy to have a CY Young type pitcher around that time of year.

by johnsamo on Wed Jul 05, 2006 at 02:15:10 PM PST

btw..... check out the lifetime batter versus pitcher splits for Loiza and the Angel players.  Virtually every Angel has used this guy for batting practice over the years, and that includes the years Loiza was actually a good pitcher.

Wow John
This is the game thread, not True Confessions of a Fat-Man Love-Hater.
I smell sumthin....
is that the odor of a huge MAN-CRUSH wafting thru???
I want ...
some real predictions.

Please make me rich

I also want it noted for the record
That I am great in bed, that is how I roll, that chicks dig me because i rarely wear underwear, and when i do it usually something unusual.
going commando is just way too much info
re: commando
I am also a fan of this way of life. Except when you're in hot, humid climates. You become too vulnerable to "Batwing", something no man wants to experience.
I think "batwing" should be ...
... the official HH antonym of "Panther."
Stripes
nice one cupie. will you wear underwear to the Slide Bar tonight?
are you going to be there to verify it?
i'm gonna try
i might have to work late, though.
YIPPPEEEE!!
YesWeCan
Will be at The Hub.
what's The Hub?
before it was Slide Bar...
...it was a coffeehouse called the Hub. two guys owned it, and i think they opened the 80s arcade together, as well. then one of them split and opened the Continental, while the other changed the Hub to Slide Bar.

a little ancient Fullerton history for you...

local?
no
i lived there for a year, maybe ten years ago, before the onslaught of bars into the area. i finally hung out there last friday -- it's like frigging Mardi Gras down there!
cool I bet you kill at trivia games
you are just a varied plethora of useless knowledge, aren't you? (that's a compliment)
Old Spaghetti Factory = best cheap italian ever
in same parking lot

I used to go to shows at the Hub.  It was a good place to play video games and crush on hot girls who had crushes on the band.

actually, now that you said
Old Spag Warehouse, I know where the place is. I used to pass it all the time on my way to St Judes...so THANKS!
One of the two guys is
is named Sean Frances, not sure about the other dude. I'm pretty sure that the other guy who owned the hub, which was was a really cool place, was bought out. Then, with a silent partner Sean opened Continental (my fav bar in F-Town) and then teamed up with a the band Lit (hence the the ridiculous local pop-punk themed regalia) to open  Slide Bar.
i could be wrong, but
i think carlo (sean's Hub partner) opened the Contintental. the first time i went there i happened to run into him. maybe sean bought it from him later, but whatever...old history.
Didn't we play at the Hub once?
I remember having to go to Knowlwoods to get beer.
yes
we played there a few times. "knowlwoods" -- ugh. i had forgotten about that place.
Carlo's name
does sound familiar. I'm 99.9 % sure thay're both  still involved in the Continental. It's funny what a small town Fullerton can be...
I'll admit
That I never saw that one coming.  It's only one game, but you were certainly right for a day, and maybe more.  It's all about location & movement.  91 with movement is a lot harder to hit than 95 and straight (see, e.g., Maddux, Glavine, etc.)  Bart's first shutout since he was an Expo (!) is nothing to sneeze at.
Picks....
Early picks...+who's coming to SlideBar in Fullerton tonight?

Red:  9/15
Green:  4/7

S

I'll be there!
Just coming from SD so I may be a bit late depending on traffic :)

You getting there around 6:30?

Haha, Slide Bar!
that place is pcked with black shierted, tattood degenerates. ALthough at game time, you may be ok.
then why don't you come over , big boy
& help Scott protect me & Nicole?? I am sure we can play helpless for 5 minutes so you can beef up your quien es mas macho status!
I will be DT tonight.
I actually work a restaurant down the street, and will be out tonight. Being a passifist and of slight build, I'm afraid "protecting" anyone is out of the question.
let us know where you work
we'll, uh, go visit you..yeah that's it, we'll go visit wid yous
um...
I'm getting a very nervous feeling about the direction if this thread. Lets meet at place I can't get fired at.
cool....
SlideBar it is!!!
Ok, I'm off at 9
This is the first time I've ever meet anyone off myspace... errr Halos heaven.  
we will be there if the game is still on...
look for Angel's jerseys!  
awsome
Adults with Jersey's on. See ya there!
Off the mat and looking for blood
Angels - 5/11
A's - 4/9
Rolling Rolling Rolling
Angels: 8/15
Choakland: 3/7

Do I hear 6 in a row, and 3 back before the night is over?

how original
where is this game? who's name goes on top?
Angels 9/14
Oakland 2/6

Dont both teams have an A on their hat? these guys should come up with something more original. Maybe call themselves the Unathletics. U would look great on their hats

I coulda been a contendah...
Red A's:   6, 9
Yella A's: 3, 5

Bring it, yo!

jeff

picks
angels- 9/16
the enemy- 3/7
Picks
Angels: 5/7 chOakland: 2/4
pickles
angels 4 7
Freemont/richmond 1 6
6 in a nicely-organized row.

OCTA - 5/9
BART - 4/7
the difference between the Stone man and the Beane
Stone man banished his FA mistake and Mr. Beane is still running his out to the mound every fifth day.

Long live Loaiza!

Halos 9/16
Choaktown 2/7

Picks
Angels: 6/11
Unathletics: 2/7
our new FIXATION (sorry seahawk-you are history)
myspacecobar  9/13
newest AA member 4/7

Cowardly Loaiza: I do believe in brooms. I do believe in brooms. I do! I do! I do! I do believe in brooms. I do believe in brooms. I do! I do! I do! I do!
Wicked Pitcher of the West: You'll believe in more than that before I'm finished with you.

QUESTION
do players have a say in whether or not they are traded? Just read where Soriano doesn't really want to leave the Nationals.
not unless
they have a no trade clause.
Dont Break My Heart
My Oaky Chokey Heart

LAA 7/7
OAK 3/7

There are no good pitchers called Esteban.

that's gross
i remember how much that song festered on the american charts like VD, but i had no idea it spread across the pond. i guess for every great american band the brits embrace, there will always be a few Billy Ray Cyruses. ouch!
try living in Ohio
when that song was big...MULLETS RULE!!  LOL
To be fair
we did foist the Spice Girls on the world.
true
but for every Spice Girls, the U.S. unleashes the Backstreet Boys, Destiny's Child, 98 Degrees, Hansen, etc etc.
Ginger Spice v Beyonce?
I think USA wins hands down.

And you can always hit the mute button on MTV....

touch
ginger needs to gain some of that weight back.
I'll Take Ginger Spice
over Beyonce
ewww
maybe back when ginger had some more meat on her bones. but then only MAYBE...

you just like brit chicks

That's How I Roll
not to mention WHAM!
kicking ass, taking names
LAA: 7/10
OAK: 3/8
Picks
Let's make it six!

Myspacecobar kicks ass: 6/11
Choakland Ass: 2/5

Incidentally
Does anyone know where the team will be staying?  If he has a good outing (or maybe even if he doesn't), I wouldn't be surprised to see Myspacecobar hitting up some of SFO's finest...Market Street Cinema, Mitchell Bros., etc., seeking to add a few more "friends."
GHETTO BOYZ
ANGELS = 6 / 10
AHOLES = 3 / 6
predictions
halos - 11, 12
jokeland - 3, 5
Can I play too?
A's - 6/9
Angels - 4/10
First Time!
The SoCal A: 5 / 8
The NorCal A: 3 / 7
me too
Able Dangers 6/10
Green Weenies 3/7
picks
Escobar's Space: 6/10
Drunk Tank: 2/5
The Lassie Foundation
Halos 6/12
A's 5/9
Mickey Rivers omitted from top 100?
What a shame.  How come Mickey Rivers is not in the top 10 of ALL-Time Angels Greats?  What a disgrace! Please explain.
Simple Explanation
I am dumb and only one person helped with the compilation of the big picture list - although many helped with teh project after it got rollling.
Mickey rivers
Thanks. I feel better now.
this deja vu is killin me
Tonight's game also on INHD
At least, it is out of market.  Dunno about LA/SF areas.
I just saw that
I'm pumped!
NO WAY
i thought i was gonna have to watch another one on my stinkin computer.  the only angels games i get up here in portland are when they play seattle or if theyre on espn.  THIS IS AWESOME!  plus, i dont have to listen to phyz, hud, or the shitty seattle guys, ron fairly and dave henderson.  i havent been this happy since last nights shutout.
Blacked out in market
I think this was what Arte was complaining about in his negotiations with Fox.
This is going to be an Angels blowout
Loaiza has historically been lit up by almost every Angel and Escobar has been a quality start machine and our bullpen is tan, rested and ready.
yes, the bullpen is definitely tan
as tan as a PANTHER
shortest post ever by John
Big series guys, so keep it going...
Halos: 6/12
Oak: 4/10

Huge series for us. What's it gonna be?

atta boy Izzy
getting it started
c'mon myspace
get out of it
what the FUCK was that??
that was seriously
FUCKING PATHETIC
I'm waiting for an apology
from P237.
its the first inning
Yes it is
Plenty of time for even more errors and missed opportunities.
you hate the angels
You bet
when they suck.  And they've sucked a lot this year.
Hot damn, Juan!
Something good off the bat of Juanny Rivers.
it seems like
hes hitting 500 the past week or two with lots and lots of power
did the a's
do anything at all to Loazia after his DUI? or did they just pretend that never happened?
LALALALA I can't hear you
They ignored it.
What. The. Fuck. Was. That?
Figgins didn't even TRY to take out Ellis.
he was
really far from him, i dont think it was really his fault
But he was already in motion!
He was out whether or not he ran to second.  At least he could have tried to prevent the second out.
He left is gat in the dugout
long out
whew
Visions of another shitstorm
WHEW.
goddamn
kendry..the cuban is asleep
You know
he's only been playing pro ball for a year, right?
i didn't know
i wonder who you could have possibly found that information out from
Oh, I have my sources
man
you must know some people who are quite informed and "In-the-Know"
Here we go again
How many extra outs will the Angels give the A's tonight?

a) 2 (what they've done so far)
b) 4
c) 10
d) ∞

Ouch
Can't keep giving up that many baserunners without that the A's eventually break through.
holy sheeba
that was really really far
Well, that was a pleasant surprise
Too bad about that OBP thing.
And here I was about to break tradition
and say something nice about GA.
Holy crap Juan
jeez
juan is really going crazy
Like I said
Too bad about that OBP thing.  Go get 'em Juan!
Good God I Love Estaban Loaiza
The gift that keeps on giving up homers.
And unlike Jeff Weaver
the A's don't have the kind of money to afford to DFA Esteban Lousy's ass.
The Owner
Not frontman LEw Wolff, the GAP store heir, the money guy who REALLY owns the A's - is he richer than Arte - because THEY DO have the money to get whoever they want - they are just cheapskates who thrive on bloodsucking misguided fans...
Rivera is on a tear!
I think we need to deal Wood for a big bat...
...so that we can go back to playing Rivera two or three days a week.
If that post was dated any month but July
You'd be the most popular poster on this site...
Shit
They brought out the juiced balls tonight.
does anyone know
who these announcers are on the INHD channel?
Usually
it's the home team's announcers.
Yep
INHD doesn't have its own crew, they just broadcast the local HD feed.  So we're hearing the A's announcers, and occasionally INHD will overlay their own graphics (like for the lineup).
gotcha
i'd trade brandon wood for announcers like them
Hey, guys?
Let's not get into a home run battle with the A's...or anyone, mmm kay?
Well that was no fun
Esco-bad.
wow
thats too bad
In which I register my disgust
Escobar is terrible tonight.  Total batwing.  Hook him, Mike!
Man, you must hate the Angels
Yes
Thanks for pointing that out.  I do hate the Angels, and will live a better life for having realized it.

I especially appreciate your taking the time to hang out and help us all self-actualize, which must be your motive since the Angels are clearly out of the running already this year.

What is dat ...
63
63
Good things can still happen.
Loaiza decides Anderson is a better opponent
Wise move.
And he's right
anti-monkey
Garretterson - rally killer extraordinaire
WHO'S HERB KRAVENHOF?
That was priceless.
I get sick
when I even hear of Erstad re-joining the team much less being activated.  Garret is getting everyone ready for him to be the Erstad of next year.  But his avg. is dropping so fast, he might make it this year.  Scioscia needs to take him out.  He is killing us at the plate.
A softball game has broken out
Hey Kool Aid
Is there one, ONE person in Anaheim...
...who wouldn't vote for Mike Napoli over Count Pringula for Mayor right now?
Napoli
All he needs is the walk to make it a three-true-outcomes trifecta.
Morales swinging the bat a lot better lately....
He's been swinging the bat a lot better lately
generally.  Morales has had three multi-hit games in his last five.
Boooooooooooooo
C'mon, leave Loaiza in there!  Chicks dig the long ball!
Aww, come back Esteban
We like you.
Damn ...
now we might have to really work for runs. How is Puke & Puss' bullpen?
stay off the roads in Oakland !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you take a chance
and bring up Howie now and trade Kennedy for middle relief?
I doubt
that he could get to Oakland in time for this at bat.
I cannot understand
why Figgins is still leading off.
Kennedy, Figgins, and GA.......
Kennedy, Figgins, and GA.......
would make a lousy rock band.....no hits...
You, however,
show all the makings of a typical rock critic.
Huh?
Too harsh
Should have said something like "spoken like a true rock critic," or something like that.  My point being Anderson alone has over 2,000 hits.
First time all night
Escobar has had a 1-2-3 inning.  Good show.
Mice Air
gets a single.  This is a good thing.

Now, no GIDPs, Orlando.

Rex gives himself a C-.  Anyone else think it ought to be a D-? F?

Execution!
Suweet!
Nice hit and run
come on, let the lefty pitch to Vlad.

Damn.

O.C. is Pantha'
that's why vladdy makes the big bucks
I guess that .217 against
didn't include Vlad.

Man, it's good to get him going again.

Oh baby, come on Napster
man it warms the heart
to see the boys come back from deficits.
ahhh
its aight naps.  PLEASE JUAN.  go deep again for a GS.
Still waiting for the walk
He waaa ....
rex don't be knowing the count
Um, juan
I don't give a fuck how many home runs you've hit today, when you hit a soft grounder that could score a run, you better damn well run as hard as you can to first.
Oh well
At least Napoli's outcome was true.  Would've sucked for him to hit a statistically meaningless single.
Lame
Just. Fucking. Lame.

Whatever, the Angels at least manage to come back.

OC
Should have read that double better and scored.
Bah
Another loaded chance missed. BAH.
Ok, let's win this
Our bullpen is better than theirs, and we're hitting today, let's get it done guys.
there ya go JC
one down
Romero
Yow. Gets a called K.  Nice.
On Swisher no less
that kid scares me.
One good deed and one bad deed
Back to suckage, J.C.
One good deed and one bad deed
Back to suckage, J.C.
Have we ever had a lefty reliever...
...who could throw strikes to lefties?  

Schoeneweis? No.
Holtz? No.

You have one freaking job.  Get left handers out.  That entails throwing strikes.  

Jerkass.

Ironic that he didn't get the lefty out
maybe
this will come back to bite us, but i like us going to someone other than shields here, just becasue we need someone to help the pen and shields is no good in tie games for wahtever reason
Yeah
Too bad the team's minus guys who can get lefties and righties out.
That was horrible
Naps set up low.
YEAH! Nice play AK!
AK saves Carrasco's ass
Nice.
Now that the inning's over
I want to point out that Carrasco made to damn fine pitches to Thomas with 2 strikes...almost got him on the splitter, then jammed him to get the popup. Nice job.
he also made "two" damn fine pitches
Wow, why the hell does this feel like September!
I can't do this for another three (hopefully four) months.
Am I the only one
pacing around like this is a playoff game? I want this one bad.
ehh
i still feel like its early
no
youre not.  however, you have good reason to be.  i think this series basically makes or breaks our season.  if we sweep, we're probably looking at 1 game out of first, but if we get swept, we're back to 7 games back all of a sudden.  (i think.  i'm sure someone will correct me on this.)
If the Angels sweep
they're tied for first with the A's.

Get swept, and they're eight games back and probably done.

ok
thanks.  like i said---this series is for the season
Nice job tonight Hot Sauce
Now let's get a run (or 5), bring in Frankie, and get this over with.
nice job
hot sauce
I put my ...
hat on inside out. Got lotsa' monkeys on it.

Leeeeettttsss Gooooooooooooo Aaaaannnnnggeelllllssssss

LLAAAAAAAAAAoooooooooooAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ducheduche
is pretty much a prick hole
and by ducheduche
of course i mean douchedouche
haha
that was quite funny by rex: paraphrased..
"all 18..or soo thousand fans are unhappy with macha here"  
Aaaaand...
GA is hitting fifth, why?
G.A. sucks in the outfield
he should be the full-time DH. Yeah, put Soriano in LF.
The fact that he caught that at all
was amazing.
Ugh.
Dammit shields...
we did
way too many things wrong tonight...lets get them tomorrow
Hello Bill Stoneman
OBP. SLG.

Six letters you ought to learn.

and if you can't learn 6
heres 3:  OPS
Can we take Shields off the untouchable list?
How many games is he gonna blow this season?
i think hes untouchable..
he just shouldnt pitch in tie games
A relief pitcher who can't pitch in tie games
Not really a commodity a lot of teams are looking for.
great point
but he's THAT good when we are ahead
Blame of the game: ANDERSON
5 or 6 left on base?  no hits?  you suck!
Watching that pitch on the replay
Shields couldn't have put it on a tee any better.
Ugh
What a shitty way to end an evening -- Living in NorCal I know I'll hear about Sheilds' tee ball pitch all day tomorrow at the cap.

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